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Old 02-02-2015, 10:17 AM   #1
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Towing Double With a Scamp 19

I was wondering if it was possible to tow a small trailer behind the Scamp 19? I want to use my 4x6 utility trailer with my ATV on it, weight of the trailer is 250lbs and the ATV is 600lbs, tongue weight is 30-40lbs. The little trailer tows nice with no sway.

So has anyone done something similar?

I have checked into state laws where I tow and it is OK.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:42 AM   #2
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Really bad idea.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:20 AM   #3
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This is one of those ideas that is answered with "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you should do something". Basically there is a reason why double tows aren't legal in all states, it's just not that good an idea for most RV users.


You apparently don't have the Scamp yet, but you would find that it doesn't lend itself to having another 1/2 of load tagged onto the back of everything. Towing and stopping this train could be a disaster especially, as I am sure, your utility trailer doesn't have any brakes of it's own. I don't think that you will find much support for your idea hereabouts.
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Yup, this one is going to be unanimous.
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Many moons ago, my Dad had a short semi trailer with a trailer behind it. I spent a zillion hours trying to learn to back it up. On the highway, the rig was prone to instability depending on how each unit was loaded. We played around with forcing the axil on the back trailer to have a warp that gave a small amount of toe-in and that made the whole rig noticeably more stable. If you do it start out really slowly and carefully. On your first time out induce a little sway at low speed and see if the sway dampens out or gets worse. If it gets worse it could be unmanageable at higher speeds.


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While that offers some solutions to an existing problem, I think that the bigger issue is just tagging the extra trailer on behind a Scamp-19.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:02 PM   #7
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Don't know about Scamp, but on the Escape, that rear receiver is intended for a bike rack and limited to a couple hundred pounds. I suspect a utility trailer with an ATV on board would destroy the receiver and probably twist the Scamp frame if it ever started to sway.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:02 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info, I see people doing it with bigger fifth wheel RVs I just don't want to have to go bigger and was hoping this was an option.

You are right Bob Miller there are no brakes on the utility trailer but they could be added but I guess thats a moot point now.
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Many moons ago, my Dad had a short semi trailer with a trailer behind it. I spent a zillion hours trying to learn to back it up. On the highway, the rig was prone to instability depending on how each unit was loaded. We played around with forcing the axil on the back trailer to have a warp that gave a small amount of toe-in and that made the whole rig noticeably more stable. If you do it start out really slowly and carefully. On your first time out induce a little sway at low speed and see if the sway dampens out or gets worse. If it gets worse it could be unmanageable at higher speeds. Keep in mind that trailer sway is a consequence of the fact that when one wheel becomes more heavily loaded (for any reason), it will force the trailer to follow its path as opposed to the unloaded wheels path. If that path alters the weight distribution onto the other wheel, the other wheel becomes dominant and the cycle is repeated. Things that help are lowering center of gravity and a small amount of toe-in, and a moving the axil rearward.
Hey, what could go wrong?


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Old 02-02-2015, 12:18 PM   #10
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You'll have to look in each state or province you want to pull through.

You'll fine most places require the first trailer must be a fifth wheel


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Old 02-02-2015, 07:20 PM   #11
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I tried that once years ago with a little Scotty. The sway was so bad that it was like the tail wagging the dog.
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The guy I bought my Scamp 19 from told me he use to tow a boat behind the scamp. He got pulled and since he did not have trailer brakes, was cited. So I have the hitch and plan to use it for a hitch/platform for a cooler but not for my boat! Guess it has been done and if you have brakes it can work. Bet it is not fun backing up!


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A better way

I have thought about this a lot as it would be nice to have our bikes (total of 40lbs) on a tiny flatbed tag trailer behind our trailer.

The tag along trailer would be designed like the old Helite camper. It had a single wheel (caster type) and "two" connecting balls about 4' apart.

The tag trailer would weigh about 200LBs max and would have almost 0 tongue weight.
There should be no sway issues or back up problems.
Think it would work but it is just my theory.


Again... the tag trailer you are suggesting is too just too heavy and with bad physics all around.
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It is legal to double tow in CA with certain conditions. You have to have a commercial license and the first trailer has to be a 5th wheel with brakes.
I don't think I see but maybe 6 double tows a year and a few of them have had a sign in the back window stating "I'm legal". Always have to chuckle when I see that.
I have to agree with folks here, don't think a double set up would be a good idea with a molded trailer. Not because of two trailers but of the frame design being light weight and not made for anything more than a bike rack on the bumper. Now if someone had a new frame built for a resto and beefed it up with doubles in mind.......
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