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Old 01-20-2013, 07:10 PM   #29
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It's all about the alternator in the tug. Tow ready typically means you have a beefer alternator. It not only powers the tug battery and accessories, but is capable of charging the trailer battery.
Oh, yeah!

I forgot to mention:

Do make sure your alternator is at least as "good" as the one that came stock in my 1997 Kia Sportage 4 cyl 4x4!

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It's all about the alternator in the tug. Tow ready typically means you have a beefer alternator. It not only powers the tug battery and accessories, but is capable of charging the trailer battery.

It is a lot about the gauge of the wire from the TV alternator to the trailer battery. If it is too small (smaller than 10 gauge), your trailer battery won't charge due to voltage drop. Not all OEM tow packages have an adequate wire size.
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True story Tom, but those that just add a hitch to the rear and hope for the best are sadly lacking that extra "Umph"!
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True story Tom, but those that just add a hitch to the rear and hope for the best are sadly lacking that extra "Umph"!
You can break a lot of laws and get away with it, but not Ohm's law.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:37 PM   #33
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I was thinking of pursuing the OP's idea of a PD4645 converter. $200 seemed high, but within reach. I have been shopping now for a good deal. It looks like the best I can find is at my local Woody's RV, at $378. At that price, solar is looking like a much better option. Maybe the next time I am in the US, I will pick up a PD4645.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:19 PM   #34
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I was thinking of pursuing the OP's idea of a PD4645 converter. $200 seemed high, but within reach. I have been shopping now for a good deal. It looks like the best I can find is at my local Woody's RV, at $378. At that price, solar is looking like a much better option. Maybe the next time I am in the US, I will pick up a PD4645.
$185-$200 on amazon!
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #35
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Hello, i've read through this, thank you for the information, i'm still trying to narrow it down to the proper one. Ive been looking at progressive dynamics and WFCO ones, and theres just so many i'm not sure which one to get exactly.

I have a Trill 1300, replacing my original converter. Heres info/what im wondering.

-I'll be using 2x6volt batteries.

-I don't have any large appliances, just lights, ceiling vent fan, and i'll be charging cell phones/laptops. I'd like to have a some extra power for future upgrades, but don't want to go overkill.

-I'll have to buy a separate inverter still, if you have any recommendations on one as well.

-Is it possible to hook it up so it can charge from the tow vehicle while driving?

-I have a solar panel, will i be able to just wire it directly in some how, or will i need a separate controller for the panel as well?


The main thing i'm confused about is the different product lines, do i need access to this thing on a regular basis? why do they sell models that have the front panel with the door you can open? is there switches i need access too like on my current (1981) converter? i assumed its all automatic.

I guess i need that little remote pendant controller for the progressive dynamics models? not 100% sure what its for.
not trying to prod you guys here.. well, not to hard anyways, but I was hoping someone might be able to chime in here? Just trying to make the big decision on which inverter.
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$185-$200 on amazon!
I saw those, but they don't ship to Canada. Also, the one on Amazon.ca was $340.99 + shipping.
http://www.amazon.ca/Progressive-Dyn...A3JVXPGY4Y8BM7
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I saw those, but they don't ship to Canada. Also, the one on Amazon.ca was $340.99 + shipping.
Progressive Dynamics PD4645 4600 Series 45 Amp Converter Upgrade Section: Amazon.ca: Electronics
riiigghht.. i should've checked that before recommending, thats a bummer..

theres a few on ebay: Progressive Dynamics RV Power Converter Charger 45 Amp Replacement PD4645 | eBay

that one is remanufactured, but its $180+50 shipping so your still ahead some.

Whats the difference between those, and the PD 'power centers' it looks like those i can hide away somewhere, and the power center just has easily accessible fuses? or is there some other feature/benefit i'm missing?
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riiigghht.. i should've checked that before recommending, thats a bummer..

theres a few on ebay: Progressive Dynamics RV Power Converter Charger 45 Amp Replacement PD4645 | eBay

that one is remanufactured, but its $180+50 shipping so your still ahead some.

Whats the difference between those, and the PD 'power centers' it looks like those i can hide away somewhere, and the power center just has easily accessible fuses? or is there some other feature/benefit i'm missing?
The main benefit for me would be the ability to put it in the same place as the original converter. The space is quite small, as you can see in the pictures in post #16. It is otherwise useless space. On one of the 1300's I own, there is actually a door over this spot. The resulting storage space is less then 3" deep. Kinda an inconvenient spot for spices. So, I would have a hole to fix if I put the converter anywhere else.

I think I would come up with a different cover, maybe put some lights on it, maybe a voltage minder.. The place he has the fuses is actually very accessible. It would take a couple of seconds to get to them.
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Hey David, My original one, and the placement of my new one in my 1300 is under the sink, under the furnace, left of the fridge. The thing i'm most confused about is the difference between progressive dynamics power centers, and power converters.

power center: Mighty Mini - the Compact All-In-One System Inteli-Power 4000

power converter: PD9200 Series RV Power Converters

I can't see the difference in features/options between the two types of units. Is it just that the center is visible, mounted in the wall, and the converter is mounted anywhere you like, hidden.?
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I can't see the difference in features/options between the two types of units. Is it just that the center is visible, mounted in the wall, and the converter is mounted anywhere you like, hidden.?
One unit contains the AC / DC circuit breakers / and or fuses, the other unit needs a separate fuse / breaker panel.
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What Tom said.
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It is a lot about the gauge of the wire from the TV alternator to the trailer battery. If it is too small (smaller than 10 gauge), your trailer battery won't charge due to voltage drop. Not all OEM tow packages have an adequate wire size.
The voltage drop across the charge line is always the difference between the two battery voltages. Unlike an extension cord, the wire resistance has no effect on the voltage drop but does determine the available charging current as does the capability of the alternator. If every thing is off in the trailer, the battery will charge, just maybe not as soon as you would like. Raz
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