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Old 07-13-2011, 11:26 PM   #1
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Trillium Porch Light Position

Hello,

I was wanting to install one of these Bargman porch lights on my Tillium 1300:

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Can anyone who has a factory installed one send me some pictures of the position of it, with the lens cover off, and maybe some measurements I can use for co-ordinates to position it in relation to the door and dinette window? Thanks for the help!

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Rodre,
I can't say for sure, but I just noticed a piece of wood behind the ensolite in my closet on the 4500 that seems to match the correct position. Have you checked your closet. It's the only reason I can see for the bulge to be there.
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I have a 4500 as well. We tore out all the ensolite. The square chunk of wood is not for the light. There was something attatched to it, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was now. I think it may have been a latch. The light is installed through drilled holes in the upper lefthand corner of the closet. On the closet side there is a washer and screw that screws into the light.
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Hi, Thanks for your responses. Can I trouble one of you guys to break out your digital camera and measuring tape? I'd like to get this installed in the as close to factory original position as possible. I like things to look spec.

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Hi, Rodre

Here are some pictures of my porchlight, which is a replacement of the original.I had to change it due to a broken cover that I couldn't match. At the time I bought this light, white was the only color available, and although it's a Bargman, too, it's smaller than the original. The closeup shows the leftover caulkline from the original light.
When I put it on, I positioned the top and right edges with the old light's shadow (as best I could- it looks a bit crooked in this picture!).
The top edge is 7-3/4" down from the awning rail (end of tape firmly against rail).
The right edge is 3-1/4" from the doorframe edge (tape "hooked" at doorframe).

Hope this helps!

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Hi, Rodre

Here are some pictures of my porchlight, which is a replacement of the original.I had to change it due to a broken cover that I couldn't match. At the time I bought this light, white was the only color available, and although it's a Bargman, too, it's smaller than the original. The closeup shows the leftover caulkline from the original light.
When I put it on, I positioned the top and right edges with the old light's shadow (as best I could- it looks a bit crooked in this picture!).
The top edge is 7-3/4" down from the awning rail (end of tape firmly against rail).
The right edge is 3-1/4" from the doorframe edge (tape "hooked" at doorframe).

Hope this helps!

Francesca

Thanks Francesca!, looks like I have a project for the weekend. Funny, I thought these ones were like the original? Did the original look the same but was bigger? BTW, how is it fastened to the body, with rivets?
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Thanks Francesca!, looks like I have a project for the weekend. Funny, I thought these ones were like the original? Did the original look the same but was bigger? BTW, how is it fastened to the body, with rivets?
hi, Rodre

The original light was virtually identical, except wider- I still have it as I hope to come across a replacement lens some day...
FYI, the switch for the light is inside the trailer, if you're trying to duplicate what the factory did.
Let me know if you need pics of that, too.

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Does the orginal have a part number on it? I wouldn't mind a picture of the switch if you have your camera handy. Thanks!

BTW, how wide is the original one? I am now wondering if the one I have is the old one or the new one as it looked like it was new old stock when I bought it.
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I have a 4500 as well. We tore out all the ensolite. The square chunk of wood is not for the light. There was something attatched to it, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was now. I think it may have been a latch. The light is installed through drilled holes in the upper lefthand corner of the closet. On the closet side there is a washer and screw that screws into the light.
On my 4500 there was a latch in the closet to hold the Table Extension when it was not needed for the bed,
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Does the orginal have a part number on it? I wouldn't mind a picture of the switch if you have your camera handy. Thanks!

BTW, how wide is the original one? I am now wondering if the one I have is the old one or the new one as it looked like it was new old stock when I bought it.
Truth be told, Rodre, when I said I still have the old light, I didn't mean I know exactly where it is...
I looked just now in the box with the taillights, etc. and it's not there. No surprise, that!
It's probably at the bottom of a pile on my workbench...
Anyway, the replacement is exactly like the lights at Porch Lights from Bargman RV for Sale - PPL Motor Homes- it's just shy of 6" wide, and I think the old light is about an inch wider.
Here're some pics of the switch, FYI. That's a real handy location, just inside the door. I like having the switch inside- it's nice for checking out "midnight visitors" before I open the door !

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wow!! i jus insalled a bargman light yesterday!! i just sort of guessed the location...i figued the guys do the same at the facory!!!

yup the little block is to hold the table in place.
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wow!! i jus insalled a bargman light yesterday!! i just sort of guessed the location...i figued the guys do the same at the facory!!!

yup the little block is to hold the table in place.

I studied a large number of photos and came to the conclusion that they were all what appeared to be the exact same location. I know they use a jig at the factory to position stuff so I don't doubt they have a jig or a template for the light location.
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7 3/4 inches to the door opening and 4 1/2 inches down from the top of the door opening.
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Depends on whether you're trying to duplicate the original, which was closer to the door, or the "new" Trillium.
On right, one of Randy Bishop's "herd"; on left a new Trillium.

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