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Old 09-07-2017, 06:56 AM   #29
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Thanks, Pat. I am frantically trying to get at least the basics done before the cold weather hits and I need to put the trailer away for the winter. I am really hoping to go on my "grand tour" of south and west US this winter, if the trailer is liveable.
I have 3 sons and am not sure if they are proud. Bemused, yes. They are used to my always having a house renovation project on the go, so this is just Mom doing her thing. But at least this thing will get me on the road to visiting them across the country.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:06 AM   #30
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Still left to do on the exterior: use Por 15 on the hitch and bumper
Patricia you camper is turning out Great! It looks really clean and your attention to detail is impressive and motivating.

As I recall, Por 15 is not UV protected, meaning don't have it in the sun. Its great on car frames because they are never exposed to sunshine. If you are going to (or have) used it on your hitch and bumper you should top-coat it with paint to keep it from degrading in the sun. The can will probably let you know that you can top coat it within a certain amount of time (like a day) and after that you can top coat it if you lightly sand it with sandpaper or a scotch brite pad first to give the topcoat something to adhere to.

You are going to love traveling with that camper of yours and when you pull into your son's places they will definitely be proud, if not stunned, and the bemusement will be all yours.
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:22 AM   #31
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Thanks Buggeee,
I tried to find Por 15 but could only get the large can which would have been a waste. Amazon has the starter kits which would have been just about right but they were very expensive. When I had the trailer in the shop, the mechanic recommended using Tremclad. I sanded all the old rust off with my grinder and painted it. The paint (not spray) was very thick and so far, after several wet days, the hitch and bumper are looking good.
By the way, I love your dome and also your floor is impressive. You should never have to worry about water damage.
You are obviously enjoying the process. Keep on having fun.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:34 AM   #32
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Hi Patricia! Can you describe what you did to reinforce the roof? I'm currently rebuilding my Ventura and fixing the sagging roof is on my to do list.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:16 AM   #33
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Thanks Buggeee,
I tried to find Por 15 but could only get the large can which would have been a waste. Amazon has the starter kits which would have been just about right but they were very expensive. When I had the trailer in the shop, the mechanic recommended using Tremclad. I sanded all the old rust off with my grinder and painted it. The paint (not spray) was very thick and so far, after several wet days, the hitch and bumper are looking good.
By the way, I love your dome and also your floor is impressive. You should never have to worry about water damage.
You are obviously enjoying the process. Keep on having fun.
Hi Pat ! Still following your progress ! Pat
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:49 PM   #34
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Hi Linda and Pat,
I am still plugging along. The weather remains good enough for me to carry on and I am now doing the trim work and doors on the cabinets. I will post pics soon. Thanks for keeping in touch.
understep,
I tried several things like attempting to reinforce the current "beams" that did not do the job. At that point in my reno I was a rank newbie and attempting to follow the advice of another owner who attached 3/4 in aluminum as reinforcement. I realized later that I had bought the wrong product and it was a fail. If you search the Ventura forum, I think you will find his method. I think it was Dudley.
In several places where the roof was bad, I used mat and resin to attach some 1x4 wooden supports right to the shell to stiffen it. This was tricky because there is a curve in the roof so you can't use long pieces or there will be bulges on the roof exterior (I have one) which only compounds the problem.
All the time I had the trailer stripped out, I had homemade jacks in place and would gently and incrementally raise the roof to try to restore the curve.
Careful though, as too much can cause cracking. (I have two though not serious)
Finally, I decided to sacrifice 3/4 in of height and made about six 1x2 new supports for the original beams that run from side to side. The supports run at 90 degrees to the existing beams, from back to front, and are notched at each end to sit just below and be screwed up into the beams where the roof meets the front and back walls. Doing this restored the curve of the roof (inside) very nicely and now that the birch plywood is on and varathaned, the gentle arch is my favourite part of the trailer.
What I have done has strengthened the roof and I believe it will now hold its current shape. I like to think that I have stabilized it.
I do not think that it is the original shape on the outside as it is slightly higher at the front and back walls but it is okay where the fan is so I don't have to worry about water standing there. It is a bit rough on the exterior from some patching but not bad and I am confident it will not be leaking.
Again, this being my first ever trailer, I make it up as I go along, taking into account the excellent advice and tips form this forum. I have made mistakes, as noted here. I am sure others will cringe at some of the things I have done but if others can learn from my mistakes, I am happy with that.
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Hi Linda and Pat,
I am still plugging along. The weather remains good enough for me to carry on and I am now doing the trim work and doors on the cabinets. I will post pics soon. Thanks for keeping in touch.
understep,
I tried several things like attempting to reinforce the current "beams" that did not do the job. At that point in my reno I was a rank newbie and attempting to follow the advice of another owner who attached 3/4 in aluminum as reinforcement. I realized later that I had bought the wrong product and it was a fail. If you search the Ventura forum, I think you will find his method. I think it was Dudley.
In several places where the roof was bad, I used mat and resin to attach some 1x4 wooden supports right to the shell to stiffen it. This was tricky because there is a curve in the roof so you can't use long pieces or there will be bulges on the roof exterior (I have one) which only compounds the problem.
All the time I had the trailer stripped out, I had homemade jacks in place and would gently and incrementally raise the roof to try to restore the curve.
Careful though, as too much can cause cracking. (I have two though not serious)
Finally, I decided to sacrifice 3/4 in of height and made about six 1x2 new supports for the original beams that run from side to side. The supports run at 90 degrees to the existing beams, from back to front, and are notched at each end to sit just below and be screwed up into the beams where the roof meets the front and back walls. Doing this restored the curve of the roof (inside) very nicely and now that the birch plywood is on and varathaned, the gentle arch is my favourite part of the trailer.
What I have done has strengthened the roof and I believe it will now hold its current shape. I like to think that I have stabilized it.
I do not think that it is the original shape on the outside as it is slightly higher at the front and back walls but it is okay where the fan is so I don't have to worry about water standing there. It is a bit rough on the exterior from some patching but not bad and I am confident it will not be leaking.
Again, this being my first ever trailer, I make it up as I go along, taking into account the excellent advice and tips form this forum. I have made mistakes, as noted here. I am sure others will cringe at some of the things I have done but if others can learn from my mistakes, I am happy with that.
Good for you , Pat . I can't wait to see the pictures ! Pat
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:29 AM   #36
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your work

fantastic work!!!

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Old 10-15-2017, 11:36 AM   #37
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Your little Ventura is so beautiful, I love the way you've reconfigured the interior.....It makes me want to tackle mine. If I had a place at home to a work on it, I would be tempted to gut mine too but I hope to be able I to get away I with just a facelift. Im considering a mini Reno tho ,- I'd really like to put a counter along the front instead of the bench, and raise the height of the seating seating at the bed/table for more storage.

I haven't picked mine up yet, decided I might as well get the proper wiring harness installed on my vehicle instead of just purchasing an adapter. I'll pick it up next weekend, really lucky the weather seems to be cooperating Looking at pics of yours when you first got it makes me wonder if there will be more work to do on mine than I'm anticipating....I guess I'll find out soon enough!

Did you really just learn as you went, with info and advice from these forums? Surely you had some building skills from before, everything looks so professionally done...I'm quite intimidated by your willingness to take on such a daunting challenge...Awesome work, Patricia
, Can't wait to see it finished!
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:01 AM   #38
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Did you really just learn as you went, with info and advice from these forums? Surely you had some building skills from before, everything looks so professionally done...I'm quite intimidated by your willingness to take on such a daunting challenge.
Thanks for your comments.
You are correct, I have had experience renovating houses with a partner and a condo that I did on my own. Though certainly still an amateur, over time I have learned to do plumbing, basic electrical, some cabinetry, drywall etc. by asking lots of questions at building stores, consulting library books in the pre-internet era, watching TV shows like This Old House. My point being that it is possible to learn what you need to know with time and devotion.
I don't think I would have had the courage to take on a trailer without that background but I also was fooled into a "how hard can it be" attitude.
I did not anticipate that there are lots of aspects of trailer reno that are so different from house reno like the mechanical (tires, brakes etc.), fiberglass, structural issues, weight considerations, working in a tiny space with angled walls.
My work in the trailer is not perfect by any means and I have made mistakes and know there are things I should have done differently.

I guess I am cautioning you that taking on a complete reno is not for the faint of heart and would be a steep learning curve without some relevant background. But it also depends on your expectations. With more experience comes higher expectations for the finished product. My standards for exterior fiberglassing and painting were not as high as for the interior finishing because, being a fg novice, I finally settled for good enough.
Having a less ambitious plan, using some of what exists and reconfiguring some would seem to be a more realistic way to go. I like to think that is what I would do if I ever took on another trailer but probably not.
Whatever you choose to do, best of luck and this forum will be a great resource for you.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:42 PM   #39
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thanks patricia, good advice. i can easily see how this could become an obsession. i do have some relevant skills/experience and i'm well equipped with power tools, lacking in electrical knowledge and anything beyond basic building...unless building ikea furniture/cabinets counts . i can easily see how this could become an obsession, i'm both glad and sad that i don't have a garage/yard to work in.....mostly glad i think.

realistically speaking - yes......i think it's best that i stick to a makeover only. i'll have to be satisfied with living vicariously through yours (and other's) rebuilding/renovating adventures here
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:25 PM   #40
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pat how are your sheet rock finish skills? I marvel at what those guys can do!! sort of like some of the painting jobs I see on here!!
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Patricia, your work is fantastic and you're doing very well. Yes, the learning curve is steep but the payback is wonderful and your work demonstrates your commitment and dedication to quality. Keep going! You're doing great!

You mentioned POR15 for your hitch and frame I bought some from Amazon in a quart size that work exceptionally well for Laura and I on our Scamp. This product is simply amazing and I highly recommend it for your project.

Good luck and happy camping!
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:40 AM   #42
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Thanks For info you did a good job, I will use some of your Idears on my just purchased 73 Ventura
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