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Old 10-01-2007, 09:00 PM   #15
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Thank Paul, that is what I was hoping.

And Bobbie for the Chemistry lesson. I think I knew that at one time. Off topic, but do other gases such as natural gas have the same water generating effect?




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Kyle: You should not have a problem if you have a factory installed heater. They take the air they need for combustion from the outside and then vent the exhaust gases to the outside. One reason it is very important to keep those vents clear of mud daubers or other insects that might block the air intake or exhaust.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:36 PM   #16
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Actually, Steve has done me a great favor by posting his pic. I want to pull out the furnace in my Burro at that spot and put in a Wave 8 cat heater ($$$$$) on a door. The door will let me access more storage where the furnace was. The Wave heaters come with swivel fittings for just this.

I will do as I did in my 13 and bring in fresh using a tube and the old outside vent plate.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:10 AM   #17
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...Off topic, but do other gases such as natural gas have the same water generating effect?
Essentially any fuel containing hydrogen will produce water on combustion, because burning means combining with oxygen, and hydrogen plus oxygen (in the right proportion) is water. That means any form of petroleum oil or gas (including propane, natural gas, kerosene, gasoline, etc), any alcohol (ethanol, methanol, etc), and that favourite fuel of the popular media, hydrogen.

This is only an issue if the combustion exhaust of the heater goes into the interior of the trailer ("unvented"). That's done by very few types of heater, mostly propane-fueled catalytic units (but also the Mr. Heater non-catalytic design) and kerosene heaters (rarely used in RVs).
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:33 PM   #18
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HI All,
I did a bit of math to figure out theoretically, how long could we run our 6P12 heater on a 20 lb. tank of propane for, with a 110 Amp-hr battery. So, assuming we run the heater six times a night for 1/2 hour per cycle, the propane would run out after 26 nights, the battery after 55 nights. Each 1/2 hr cycle would consume 0.32 amp-hrs. and 0.125 lbs of propane. So, it should be pretty frugal for dry camping. We'll see if these figures bear themselves out this winter, though our mileage will vary depending on the other appliances we use.

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:24 PM   #19
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Anyone have any more experiences to add after 5 years?

I just came across these heaters googling for a cat heater with a thermostat.

My only problem with these is that they have to be mounted, the Wave heaters I could move around. The place I want to put it is on the outside of the closet and sometime my big comforter falls off the bed during the night. That falling over onto the heater seems very, very bad. I've typically put electric heaters far from the bed and those are much less likely to catch a blanket on fire.

I have seen others mount heaters there, how do people insure bedding doesn't fall off the bed and onto the heater?
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:35 PM   #20
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wow this is one old thread.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:44 PM   #21
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Ideally this would be mounted near the door, 12-18" up from the floor, away from the bed and it's combustible materials. It should act as a warmer between the cold air by the door and your bed. I'd not mount them by the bed, leave them on the floor near pets, nor sleep with one operating.
Atwood makes a low draw rv furnace, Everest #1820 with less than 2 amps operating, far better choice and safer.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:56 PM   #22
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I just don't know where I'd tuck that Atwood. If I could swap the side my big screen folded to the cat heater might go nice on the closet.

Or I'd have to rig a fence/rail on the bed to keep blankets from dropping off.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:07 AM   #23
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Dylan,
I installed a Plat Cat in an old motorhome I had in the early eighties. We outgrew the rig after only about 2 seasons and didn't get to use it extensively. As I remember it produced good heat, and I don't recall any humidity issues while camping in the San Diego area and northern Baja. I installed it into a closet door which required a flexible gas line. (hose) The vent was an accordian material which flexed well. A gas hose inside a vehicle may not be a good idea, so mounting to a wall would provide a safer install. The heater was quiet too. My 16' Scamp floor plan doesn't have a proper place to mount a Plat Cat. The bathroom door would be a good location from a heat radiation standpoint, but would be an installation nightmare. The original location under the side dinette seat would fire the radiated heat right at the entry door. Cat heaters should aim at what they want to heat.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:24 PM   #24
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The catalytic heater concentrates the heat output in a direct line from the heater. I occasionally use a Coleman Black Cat (on low) pointed down the aisle toward my bed. Being able to position the unit as desired is a plus, but the fact that it runs on the small LP bottles is a minus.
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Being able to position the unit as desired is a plus, but the fact that it runs on the small LP bottles is a minus.

I have one of these heaters in my scamp, and agree. Ours in the small unit and it points toward the front of the trailer. When your sitting in front of it, you can really feel the heat. When we have it on at night it still heats up the trailer nice, but is much cooler. Dawn sleeps near the wall and can still have a cold spot near the wall.

Having said that, I think the heater is great. I have the thermostat next to the bed and can turn it on in the morning and still be under the covers, the comforts of a small rig. One thing I did, because I was paranoid about accidentally turning on the heater as we usually have a cover on it, is I have an in-line lighted dead man switch near the heater that must be on for it to work.
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The catalytic heater concentrates the heat output in a direct line from the heater. I occasionally use a Coleman Black Cat (on low) pointed down the aisle toward my bed. Being able to position the unit as desired is a plus, but the fact that it runs on the small LP bottles is a minus.
Does the Coleman Black Cat smell when lit? We have a Coleman Sport Cat (bought to warm the Boler while heading south from Canada) and only used in once because of the horrid odor.
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The Black Cat puts out a slight amount of odor.

I had gotten one on discount from ebay, and it was very stinky... something wrong with it. I returned it and got one at Bass Pro (we have one here in town, happily), and it has been fine. I will say that even this good one bothers my wife, who has a very sensitive nose, so I would never use it around her; but I think 98% of the population would find it unobjectionable.
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We also use the Coleman "Black Cat" in our 13', and find it to be to much heat in such a small space. We can adjust the heat by opening a window or vent more, but I am going to see if perhaps a hiking supply store has something out there with less BTU's which = to less propane use.
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