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View Poll Results: How closely is your road food to your normal menu?
Nearly the same menu as at home 20 23.53%
Minor changes for RV cooking method & storage 59 69.41%
Major changes because of road challenges 5 5.88%
We eat out all the time anyway so it's all good 1 1.18%
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Old 02-29-2016, 12:38 PM   #85
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It's not necessary to attack the person to explain your position, but if you are going to attack, could you at least say who you are attacking?
From my perspective, an accusation of "worship[ping] at the 'Organic Church of the Vegan' " is at least as provocative as an accusation of having "a chip on your shoulder" (even if the chip is non-GMO, organic, and trans fat-free).

Myself, I find food fights very entertaining, even when they're virtual.

I believe it's "whom you are attacking."

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Old 02-29-2016, 12:46 PM   #86
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I gave up on "who" / "whom" a long time ago.
If college professors can use "less" instead of, correctly, "few", then I quit.
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Old 02-29-2016, 02:13 PM   #87
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Thank goodness, someone else hears those "less/few" errors!!! 8^>


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Old 02-29-2016, 03:34 PM   #88
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Yeah that was questionable, I'll admit. It was meant for Steve. Only meaning that his dislike for people who push the "organic" lifestyle is causing him to condemn a good food. A food which has nothing to do with any person, and can't be held responsible for people who associate themselves with it.

Sorry Steve, whether that really crossed any line or not, it was a bad way to start the post.
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Old 02-29-2016, 04:45 PM   #89
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Better living through chemistry.

Many years ago Omni magazine published a gallery of stunning photographs of raw foods, like a pepper, an egg, etc.
And, alongside, they published the chemical names of the components they were made of.
Organic foods are also made of chemicals, like everything else on or of this earth.
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Old 02-29-2016, 04:59 PM   #90
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Yeah it's part of what I was getting at with the "organic label" not meaning what we'd like it to. Chemical fertilizers are made from, well...chemicals. My brother is a chemical engineer. He's mentioned that it's currently OK for an "organic" farmer to use a fertilizer/pesticide/herbicide made from exactly the same chemicals as a synthetic version which would not be allowed under the organic label, so long as the chemicals are derived from "natural" sources. That doesn't mean every organic farmer chooses to use those chemicals, but they can.

So one is made completely in a lab, and not ok for "organic" labeling. The other is made in a lab by extracting the same chemicals from things they naturally occur in, and is considered "organic". What's the difference, on a chemical level?

Honestly you could make a valid argument on either side, in my opinion. That the source you extracted the chemical from does matter. Or that on a molecular level, it's all the same. We humans are pretty smart, and we've figured out some pretty impressive stuff, but what we don't know will always far outweigh what we do know.

So...I make my personal choices. I firmly believe that in my lifetime, at least, we will not have absolute answers to some of these basic questions. So I go with: the most un-adulterated food I can find. It sure seems like a safe bet to me.
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:10 PM   #91
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Our current definition of organic seems strange to me. High School organic chemistry was all about methane, propane, butane..... amines, alcohol, ..... It had nothing to do with how you fed your animals.
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Yeah words take on new meanings through time. It's odd when it happens during your lifetime.

While I'm in something of an apology mode, let me also say that by "militant vegans" I don't mean than all vegans are "militant". I have friends who are or have been vegan. But I was assuming, just like I accused Steve of doing, that what he was getting at with his statements was his dislike for the "preachy" people in the natural food movement.


Yes at some point "correct" grammar isn't correct if people look at you weird when you say it. The 'not ending a sentence with a preposition' is one of those. If you try to do this in regular speech, it'll sound odd to you and everyone around you. Saying "whom" in the wrong context (wrong crowd) can make you sound like you have a superiority complex. Etc...

Anyone else read "Eats, Shoots and Leaves"? That book, from what I remember, made good, common sense real-world grammar arguments. Mostly for written speech.
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Same, same

We just take everything out of the refrigerator/freezer until the fiver is full. Same thing for the cupboards. Then replace as we travel.
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This concept makes the most sense to me

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We just take everything out of the refrigerator/freezer until the fiver is full. Same thing for the cupboards. Then replace as we travel.
D/J: this idea seems to be the most reasonable and make the most sense. Natural extension of what you already eat and rotation of home stores to eliminate duplicates of expiration dates. I like it.

We had our first trip this last weekend and from now on I'm using this concept of shopping first at home and then only buying what's missing or needed to round out the road food and replace upon return. Thanx for your sage advice.
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Interesting thread. I travel with my labs. All my trips involve dog training or AKC FIELS TRIALS/Hunt Tests. Most of my trips involve dry camping.

What that means is I am gone from early morning to after sunset. If I have to drive to the training/test site, I usually eat breakfast in my car on route.

Before I even begin cooking dinner, I need to "air" and feed my dogs. They do sleep in the trailer, so I need to towel them off so they won't dirty the trailer. Then I need to turn on the gas water heater, get out of my muddy clothes. So, I don't have the time to cook anything from scratch - except fresh salad.

1. I do cook differently on the road.
  • I freeze homemade soup & stews (in zip lock bags) prior to leaving
  • I purchase pre-cooked rice & lentils; and frozen veggies
  • I combine cottage cheese, apple sauce & Fiber 1 cereal for lunch
  • I purchase Healthy Choice frozen dinners when on the road
  • I eat dinner at restaurants several times a week
  • I prepare instant oatmeal, yogurt & nuts for breakfast.
  • Breakfast & lunch is eaten on the road. I use 16 oz Thermos food jars. If I eat in the trailer, I prepare egg white omelette (travels better than raw eggs)

2. I use my microwave nightly. I have to recharge my batteries anyway and microwave dinner while the generator is running

3. In addition to bottled water & lunch, I pack string cheese, fruit and nuts for snacks during the day

4. Because the small cabin concentrates cooking smells, I avoid strong smelling meals (i.e. Pasta, garlic)

5. Morning coffee (So vital) is brewed via Coleman Camp Coffee Maker. I pack freshly ground beans from Trader Joe's. I also bring a French Press (with matching beans) as backup.

6. I try to minimize cooking in vassals & utensils that require cleaning. Adequate fresh water is a big problem when dry camping.

7. I have never used my oven.

8. I have not yet used my Coleman propane camp stove. But I do pack a cast iron grill should I want to BBQ something on it.

9. If I am lucky to camp or train near a Trader Joe's, I will shop there. Otherwise I'll shop inexpensive food marts.

Now, I appreciate that a heated discussion has taken place surrounding vegetarianism and organic produce. I am at an age when I have to pay attention to cholesterol and blood pressure. Which means I eat less red meat (which I love), Fat & salt. And so My husband & I are eating more plant based foods & fish. On the road, fish is saved for restaurants.

I have no moral objections to meat - my dogs & I participate in a blood sport. But I began reducing my consumption of meat several years ago. To me, it's a health issue. And, to tell the truth, eating low fat meats & veggie based meals gives me a lot more energy. It also helps me control my weight.

At home, we cook everything - including fresh veggie sides - from scratch.

I precook & freeze most these meals for winter camping.

Regarding organic, there is good reason to be weary of pesticides. I wish I could trust that food labeled as organic is truly not exposed to pesticides. But we are at the mercy of the growers honesty. If I was sure that all organic products are labeled correctly, I would spend the extra bucks for these products.

Just saying
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Ian, that pizza oven looks great. I am wondering how much the good results have to do with the stone and how much with the lid. One could take a stone and use alone and see how well that works. I expect some have done that.
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I only eat organic foods, the inorganic ones are hard on the digestion.(and often on the teeth as well!)

I do occasionally get a chip on my shoulder as well, but only when I try to dump the whole bag in my mouth at once! (easy enough to pick it off and eat it after the bag is empty though)

To my Vegan friends I say... live long and prosper.


Or are they the ones who eat cold tubes of RTV?...
Sorta like inorganic cheese in a can. Great on little squares of Fel-Pro
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Jane I retired wifey retired this means especially when we camp all cooking and cleanup is kept to a minimum. I usually cook breakfast we eat later in the afternoon usually at a restaurant for our final meal.


all big pots and pans left home, we use an old perk for coffee and that is it. no fancy china no silverware all disposables for the time we are camping!


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