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View Poll Results: How closely is your road food to your normal menu?
Nearly the same menu as at home 20 23.53%
Minor changes for RV cooking method & storage 59 69.41%
Major changes because of road challenges 5 5.88%
We eat out all the time anyway so it's all good 1 1.18%
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:38 PM   #85
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It's not necessary to attack the person to explain your position, but if you are going to attack, could you at least say who you are attacking?
From my perspective, an accusation of "worship[ping] at the 'Organic Church of the Vegan' " is at least as provocative as an accusation of having "a chip on your shoulder" (even if the chip is non-GMO, organic, and trans fat-free).

Myself, I find food fights very entertaining, even when they're virtual.

I believe it's "whom you are attacking."

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Old 02-29-2016, 01:46 PM   #86
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I gave up on "who" / "whom" a long time ago.
If college professors can use "less" instead of, correctly, "few", then I quit.
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Old 02-29-2016, 03:13 PM   #87
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Thank goodness, someone else hears those "less/few" errors!!! 8^>


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Old 02-29-2016, 04:34 PM   #88
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Yeah that was questionable, I'll admit. It was meant for Steve. Only meaning that his dislike for people who push the "organic" lifestyle is causing him to condemn a good food. A food which has nothing to do with any person, and can't be held responsible for people who associate themselves with it.

Sorry Steve, whether that really crossed any line or not, it was a bad way to start the post.
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Better living through chemistry.

Many years ago Omni magazine published a gallery of stunning photographs of raw foods, like a pepper, an egg, etc.
And, alongside, they published the chemical names of the components they were made of.
Organic foods are also made of chemicals, like everything else on or of this earth.
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Yeah it's part of what I was getting at with the "organic label" not meaning what we'd like it to. Chemical fertilizers are made from, well...chemicals. My brother is a chemical engineer. He's mentioned that it's currently OK for an "organic" farmer to use a fertilizer/pesticide/herbicide made from exactly the same chemicals as a synthetic version which would not be allowed under the organic label, so long as the chemicals are derived from "natural" sources. That doesn't mean every organic farmer chooses to use those chemicals, but they can.

So one is made completely in a lab, and not ok for "organic" labeling. The other is made in a lab by extracting the same chemicals from things they naturally occur in, and is considered "organic". What's the difference, on a chemical level?

Honestly you could make a valid argument on either side, in my opinion. That the source you extracted the chemical from does matter. Or that on a molecular level, it's all the same. We humans are pretty smart, and we've figured out some pretty impressive stuff, but what we don't know will always far outweigh what we do know.

So...I make my personal choices. I firmly believe that in my lifetime, at least, we will not have absolute answers to some of these basic questions. So I go with: the most un-adulterated food I can find. It sure seems like a safe bet to me.
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Our current definition of organic seems strange to me. High School organic chemistry was all about methane, propane, butane..... amines, alcohol, ..... It had nothing to do with how you fed your animals.
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Yeah words take on new meanings through time. It's odd when it happens during your lifetime.

While I'm in something of an apology mode, let me also say that by "militant vegans" I don't mean than all vegans are "militant". I have friends who are or have been vegan. But I was assuming, just like I accused Steve of doing, that what he was getting at with his statements was his dislike for the "preachy" people in the natural food movement.


Yes at some point "correct" grammar isn't correct if people look at you weird when you say it. The 'not ending a sentence with a preposition' is one of those. If you try to do this in regular speech, it'll sound odd to you and everyone around you. Saying "whom" in the wrong context (wrong crowd) can make you sound like you have a superiority complex. Etc...

Anyone else read "Eats, Shoots and Leaves"? That book, from what I remember, made good, common sense real-world grammar arguments. Mostly for written speech.
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Same, same

We just take everything out of the refrigerator/freezer until the fiver is full. Same thing for the cupboards. Then replace as we travel.
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This concept makes the most sense to me

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We just take everything out of the refrigerator/freezer until the fiver is full. Same thing for the cupboards. Then replace as we travel.
D/J: this idea seems to be the most reasonable and make the most sense. Natural extension of what you already eat and rotation of home stores to eliminate duplicates of expiration dates. I like it.

We had our first trip this last weekend and from now on I'm using this concept of shopping first at home and then only buying what's missing or needed to round out the road food and replace upon return. Thanx for your sage advice.
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