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Old 08-06-2013, 05:55 AM   #15
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Looking at a 16' Scamp, I can't seem to find anything else that size at this weight. I'm looking to buy in Feb./March 2014. My wife and I live in Port Angeles WA. Have a good day.
I have a 2012 Forester with the manual transmission. I tow a 1700 lb Trillium. Power is really not an issue, the gearing is. First, the car has a hill holder clutch programmed into the braking system. The dealer tells me it can't be disabled. On a hill it holds the vehicle for a couple of seconds unless you completely let out the clutch pedal. You can't feather the clutch because the brakes are holding you. Second, first gear is not low enough to get the torque you need to get started with the extra weight. On a hill you need higher rpm's. You won't like the smell. Once in a while is fine but if you ever get in traffic on a steep hill, your clutch will see some serious wear. I've towed with a manual transmission for years and never ran into this problem before. The unfortunate thing is that everywhere but here a low range transmission is available which would solve this problem. Raz
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:53 AM   #16
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Hi, folks.

Just back from a 2200 km trip here in NL. We towed a 15' Trillium Jubilee with our 2006 Forester (base model, automatic transmission) without difficulty. If you've ever been to NL, Canada you'll know that its not flat. On the bigger hills, dropping back to D3 seemed to handle them well. Defensive driving and reasonable speed control seemed to work best (100 km/hr) although we did experience infrequent sway because of winds, road conditions and on several occasions speed (sometimes had to go less than 100 km/hr).

Leaving for another 5 day trip within the hour.

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Old 08-13-2013, 07:13 PM   #17
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Carol.

Is it possible that the settings for the electric brakes for the gentleman were not set correctly? If the driver feels his car is pushing his vehicle, it seems to me maybe he needs to adjust the levelling controller on his electric brakes.

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Old 08-14-2013, 12:19 AM   #18
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Paul, I didn't drive it so can't say. All I was told was he had the controller installed & set up by a pro so one would hope it was set up correctly. Another party at the meet did spend some time with the party explaining how thet should test the set up. Either way as I mentioned I pull a 16' which based on options probable weighs in at less than his & I pull with a heavier/newer Outback & I wasn't really surprised to hear he could feel his 16' pushing his older lighter Forester as based on my own towing experience with the higher tow rated Outback if I had to do it over again I would stick to a 13'.

Edit to add: Paul he did say he could feel the trailer brakes working but when he took his foot off the break he could feel the trailer pushing the car.

Re the 2014 Forester towing down rating. Subaru has had a CVT optional transmission on the Forester for a few years now but they changed the type of CVT transmission on the Forester to a type they have not used on any of their cars before which is one of the big reasons for the tow rating drop, Fortunatly they haven't changed the one on the Outback to the same as yet & hopefully will not.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:59 AM   #19
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I am all for keeping with smaller economical tow vehicles if and when its possible to do it safely and white knuckle free. But based on my experience unless you are willing to tow around at 55 mph or slower you may be pushing the safety margin into the red zone for you and your passengers, as well those of us you share the road with should you decide to tow a 16' with the Forester. There are a *few* folks here who will tell you to give it a go and that you should be OK. There is only one thing you can count on in regards to that and it is if they are wrong and its not OK they will not be the ones paying your medical or legal bills.
I wouldn't tow a 16 for other reasons but I would like to point out that in most places I tow- can't speak to everywhere- max speed is 55 or 60 anyway for any vehicle towing a trailer, and I rarely go to 60 because of the impact on gas mileage- though I will on a good road that isn't up or downhill and is not winding. But I can't see how I could tow uphill on 5 at 55mph- I'd more likely be going about 30 at that point. I went up over the grapevine in California with a friend towing her Casita behind me (a 16 or 17, don't remember which) and my 2000 Forester-Campster combo totally passed up her pickup-Casita combo climbing that hill.
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We love our 13' Scamp (purchased new in 2011) and tow it with a 2008 Subaru Legacy sedan. The basic layout with a couch/bunk combo and porta-pottie under the couch works great. The interior is surprisingly roomy. We put all the heavy canned foods in the trunk of the car.
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- can't speak to everywhere- max speed is 55 or 60 anyway for any vehicle towing a trailer, and I rarely go to 60 because of the impact on gas mileage.
Bobbie, Montana, New Mexico, Texas, North Dakota & Iowa are just a few places I know that have a speed limit while towing of over 60 mph some as high as 75 mph. Even when traveling in such states I don't go over 65 mph as my trailers tires are not rated to do so and the laws allow for you to travel slower speeds without fines if is its not safe to do otherwise. Funny enough when I travel in states with a high towing speed limit I am often not the only one going under the speed limit in states with a 75 mph limit... many others do as well and often they are not even towing.
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We love our 13' Scamp (purchased new in 2011) and tow it with a 2008 Subaru Legacy sedan. The basic layout with a couch/bunk combo and porta-pottie under the couch works great. The interior is surprisingly roomy. We put all the heavy canned foods in the trunk of the car.




Nice looking rig Gilda. We also use a car to tow our Airstream. Looks like the back of your car is sitting low. We keep any heavy stuff out of the trunk of the car and use a weight distributing hitch to keep the back end of the car from sagging too low. This also transfers some of the tongue weight of the trailer to the front wheels of the car which really helps with stability.
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I have a 2013 forester automatic. Pulled our 2000 lb tent trailer with trailer brakes last year no problems and pulled the 15ft Dolphin home from the PO's house 2 hours away. I haven't had the Dolphin weighed but I would guess 13-1400 dry weight. This was without trailer brakes. Trailer brakes have been fixed so next trip should be even smoother. Porta potty only and we don't carry water.
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Hi W,
Thanks for the tips regarding towing and weight distribution. I believe it is the trailer that dips down low, not the car. The folks at Scamp suggested that the trailer dip down a bit for improvement in aerodynamics so, on their advice, we got the hitch at the height they recommended. We really do not carry much weight in the trunk as we carry a week's supply of cans, maybe 10 cans.

It's unbelievable that you towed an Airstream with your sedan! I thought they were heavy trailers.

BTW how do folks weigh their trailer?
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Hi W,

It's unbelievable that you towed an Airstream with your sedan! I thought they were heavy trailers.

BTW how do folks weigh their trailer?
On the scale the car connected to the trailer the car weighs about 4,300lbs, almost the same as the trailer weight. Not really that bad. Note it is a professional set up by towing specialists and required a custom hitch receiver. For a rig that weighs 8,500lbs there is a lot of braking power going on there.
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BTW how do folks weigh their trailer?
I went to a truck stop to weigh mine. Here's a good thread. Raz

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