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Old 05-24-2011, 12:43 PM   #1
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Trillium 13' Door Hinges?

Hello All; Does anyone know where I can get a pair of door hinges? I have tried to contact Trillium Outback in Calgary but they don't seem to be able to read/respond to email???
Anyone have a spare pair (of hinges) or know where I may find a nice pair?

Thanks for your previous help,
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Old 05-24-2011, 01:51 PM   #2
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Donna D replied last year to the same Question I had see below....

If you're interested in shiny new hinges...

This may give you a chuckle, but the exterior hinges are actually commercial refrigerator hinges and are still available from a number of places.

It's the Kason Hinge, part # 139, flush mount. It is available from many online stores and from Team Trillium. The Kason #139 is a specific shape that fits the door molding for older Trilliums.

Here's one quick source... Google is your friend:
Cold Supply.

Here is the link to the conversation associated with that

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Old 05-24-2011, 05:16 PM   #3
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Donna's reply is only partially helpful. The hinge is a Kason 139, but it is NOT flush mount. I believe that the offset is 3/8", but may be 1/4". I found this hinge available many places online but none had the correct offset, the only place I found the correct offset was Trillium Outback in Calgary, luckily they were very helpful. I would recommend a phone call as opposed to email.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:20 PM   #4
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Donna's reply is only partially helpful. The hinge is a Kason 139, but it is NOT flush mount. I believe that the offset is 3/8", but may be 1/4". I found this hinge available many places online but none had the correct offset, the only place I found the correct offset was Trillium Outback in Calgary, luckily they were very helpful. I would recommend a phone call as opposed to email.
This is VERY true the offset is 3/8" and can only be found now from Trillium, I contacted the manfacture and was told that they couldn't sell me the 3/8" offset that they were manfactured for Trillium exclusively.....I bought 2 sets years ago from this company McMaster-Carr and they were cheap compaired to others but they can't get them anymore...............
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FWIW,
I was forced to buy some from a local refridgeration place last year due to time constraints. 1 hinge broke 48 hrs before a planned vacation. The set cost me almost 2X as much as Trillium Outback. Somewhere I have the actual Kason Part #, let me know if you want me to post it.
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Somewhere I have the actual Kason Part #, let me know if you want me to post it.
Yes PLEASE, if I gave bad info previously I apologize. Let me get this right for the next time!
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:05 PM   #7
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How's 'bout that model number?

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Yes PLEASE, if I gave bad info previously I apologize. Let me get this right for the next time!
Hi Roy,

Were you able to find that model number? I am looking at doing some door work and I am considering changing the hinges so the model number may be handy in tracking down the part. If not, is the offset indeed 3/8? Thanks everyone!
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I was forced to buy some from a local refridgeration place last year due to time constraints. 1 hinge broke 48 hrs before a planned vacation. The set cost me almost 2X as much as Trillium Outback. Somewhere I have the actual Kason Part #, let me know if you want me to post it.

The Kason Part # want do you any good because Trillium and Outback has a lock on the 3/8" offset hinges..I've checked everywhere there is too check in the klast 5 years and was told you can buy everything but the 3/8" offset they "HAVE TO" come from them they have the market cornered on that item..About 7 years ago you could buy them from McMaster & Carr but have since been unable to sell those....GOOD LUCK.....You might find someone who has a set of "old" new stock that was never sold from back in the day but I was never able too..I just got mine from OutBack after waiting over 1 1/2 months...
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:01 AM   #9
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So they got a strangle hold on the 3/8" offset market huh? I was hoping the part number would help with my google search for New Old Stock. Part of the part number on mine looks like someone took a grinder to it. It looks like it might have been 1432-174-54. It is the 1432 that I am not sure about.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:55 PM   #10
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I contacted Kason Canada and this is what I got back:

Part#10139000016 and your cost is $267.35 per pair. Seems a little pricey to me.

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Old 10-15-2011, 05:54 AM   #11
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Hi Rod, I see you are based on BC,
If a hinge replacement is required with ample time to receive them, I understand the best option is to call and get the 3/8 offset version straignt from Trillium Outback in Calgary Travel Trailer Repair, Replacement Parts, Service, Outback | Trillium Trailers.

Alternatively, hinges from ColdSupply can work, but something will have to be done to match the offset possibly by adding custom made shims.


I suppose It is possible to add a 1/4 to 3/8 nicely trimmed shim under the door frame side with longer screws using the flush version hinge. I would only consider this option if shipping delay or cost would be considerably better than getting the original part from Trillium. To me, the 267$ price you got from Kason Canada is not acceptable. It looks like ColdSupply is not allowed by contract to ship to Canada form US. You could use forwarding services such as shipito.com to have it shipped to a US adress and next, import it yourself at a shipping cost and fees of about 40$ plus Customs and taxes (Customs brokerage fees or taxes charged for imports worth less than 200$ by USPS/Canada Post are minimal if any). If you import using FEDEX or UPS, you will get it much faster, but you can expect Customs brokerage fees of 20$ or more.

I recently used a few times such backdoor technique to get stuff on Ebay from US vendors that would only ship to US, taking advantage of free or very low shipping costs within US. It is a matter of adding up the initial shipping cost and forwarding cost + import fees to the item. In the case of the Kason 139 flush mount, at 74$ each, you are at 150$ for a pair from ColdSupply. UPS ground shipping to Shipito.com adress (in Torrance, CA 90504) would cost 11$. Both Shipito.com and ColdSupply accept Paypal or credit cards. In other words, I estimate that you can import a pair of Kason 130 to Canada for about 200$. It is likely cheaper and better ordering the OEM part from Trillium in Calgary.

By the way, I really enjoyed the story of your Trillium gem found deep in the woods.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:58 PM   #12
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Lamimartin, thanks for posting that drawing. I was wondering about the offset and how it was measured.

On my trailer the door is made to fit flush with outside of the skin. IMHO, this would mean that I need the "flush mount" hinges.

I can get these "drop shipped" to an address in Sumas for about $80.00 a piece. Maybe a bit more by the time you include shipping and handling. I just park on the Canadian side and walk over and back.
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Here is a picture to try and show what offset means

Flush would mean both sides of the hinge are on the same plane - brass door hinge on right
An offset hinge would have one side higher than the other - Trillium hinge on left is 3/8" higher
If a flush mount hinge were put on a Trillium the door would be too tight to close i would think
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Thanks Chris.

The door on #136 currently has a couple of lumberyard "strap" hinges on it. The originals probably disappeared a few owners ago!!

The door closes OK (seeing as how it is pretty old), but, will not open "out flat". The way that the strap hinges work causes the door to bind on the body, about the middle of the door. Where the outward "bulge" is greatest.

Perhaps this is what the offset is for? That would allow the door to open further?

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