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Old 08-08-2011, 11:27 AM   #15
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indian tacos, yum, had plenty of those. Now i can't get them out of my mind ha ha.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:45 AM   #16
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Thanks e'one for the advice and encouragement. This was my first time ever venturing off the interstate. The experience was freeing. I was able to avoid all major cities that I chose to, show the kids small towns which had Historic court houses, churches, old gas stations with the orginal pumps, town squares and other stuff they've never seen, find farmers stands for fresh produce along the roads, and drive at a leisurely pace so that we actualy felt like we were on vacation the entire time instead of racing towards a destination to start our vacation. The farther West I got the lonlier and more desolate it became and I did think about breakdowns and not having cell service. I made sure I checked my tires daily, did a safety check of van and trailer at every stop, and was more aware of gauges, sounds etc to hopefully catch a problem before I was stranded far from anywhere. It was comforting knowing we had the trailer for food and shelter if we had to wait for help to come along. Every road but one I traveled had a vehicle occasionally and frequently it would be a County/Highway Truck or a Wildlife/Ranger. The only road where I didnt see another car for miles and miles was US 18 in SD. Funny, I didnt initially plan on taking that road but wanted to take a different route back than I'd taken before and since it was a US highway I thought why not. I was going to post my route on here before leaving to get opinions but being far from civilization as my folks are the internet went down 2 days before I was to leave. I didnt see any "larger" towns at all from the time I entered US 18 till I left it. In fact, I was shocked to see a "town" would show up on my GPS or map and when I arrived it only had a bar. I found out from the CG owner on I-90 who has lived and worked in the area driving trucks all over the reservations that the Co-op I stopped at was the local "watering hole" which is why e'body had brown bags in their hands and were being quite vocal about my daughter's figure etc. He said I couldnt have stopped at a worse place at night but had I kept going East on US 18 it gets much better so I dont know if that is where the larger towns/Rodeos and other neat happenings are going on. Accept for the one area of road construction US 18 was a very nice smooth road. A sherrif in a brand new Ford pickup was also in our little group waiting for pilot cars and he too ran of and left me. He was on his cell the entire time.
Traveling pretty much exclusively in the South all my life I have met lots of folks less fortunate and helped them out but none have ever gotten into my personal space or stared at my kids or touched me and kept pressing in as I backed off. That's the sad part, you dont know if they are going to buy food or alchohol. I didnt smell any alcohol on the man so hopefully it went for something good. A woman approached us in a Walmart parking lot in TX I think, she and her Mom were trying to get back home to AR after losing her job and was needing gas money. Dont know if the story was true but she was very polite, respectful and kept her distance and I helped her out. She started out by complimenting and asking about the T@b which could have just been an angle but hopefully I did a good deed and if not my heart was in the right place.
Yes, my daughter's have been telling their friends all about the trip and cant wait to do it again. Their friends were bored here at home all summer, lol. It will be interesting to see what stories my youngest relays to her classmates and teachers. Thankfully her teachers already know her and about our "Wild Wild West" Adventures as my little one calls them b/c she is in a Monterrori school and the grades are combined so she has her 2nd grade teachers for 3rd this year. They are pretty easy going as my little one always tells stories of target practice at Gmas and Gpas as well as Gpa Deer and Turkey hunting and this year she wanted to watch the video my Mom made of my Dad field dressing a deer which she thought was really cool so I can only imagine the stories she will tell which are all true as I've had to confirm to her teachers on various occasions. So far her teachers have not called me in but have asked me in the carloop about some things she said and I confirmed they were true. My Dad is a Federal Air Marshall and airline captain with a FFDL so probably has 300 or so various sizes/types of guns that he sells. I brought home a .38 last year and a 20 Gauge this year so hunting/shooting are a big part of our summer so it's hard to explain to an 8 yr old why the school doesnt like kids talking about such things.
If I have the time, I'll never travel the interstates again. I've been spoiled and love this new freedom I have. I can now enjoy the journey but will be more prepared for bad roads, steeper grades, gas stations closing up early, Campgrounds not being where they're suppose to or not lit/ marked so you cant find them after dark and e'thing else I've learned this trip, lol. Not brave enough yet to take a "grey" roads on the map yet but as long as it's a US or State highway I'm game, lol.

Sorry this post went to long, I feel like I could talk to you guys forever! Hopefully I'll have more adventures like Mike had now that I'm learning how to navigate off the interstate system. My folks dont know their area well since they only live there during the summer and with my Dad's flying schedule he is only home 1-2 days a week. They drive 210 miles round trip to the airport. Doesnt leave them much time for learning the area. They got their garage built this summer and the driveway rocked and the area around the house mowed (learned to drive the tractor/brushog) so when he's home he's got stuff to do. I'm doing all the reseach and siteseeing with my Mom when my Dad is gone so I'm learning about the area and what there is to do/see. I've already got lots planned for next year after picking up every visitors guide, map etc I found. As my confidence grows so should my adventures. This group is wonderful for teaching newbies how to travel this way and see/enjoy America.

Thanks e'body!

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Old 08-08-2011, 11:59 AM   #17
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In 2008 we ended up in Interior, SD down a dirtroad in a little campground just outside Interior after getting blocked by an early snow storm in Rapid City. Next time we'll check out the Woodenknife, thanks for the tip.

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Old 08-08-2011, 01:24 PM   #18
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We could call you a Pistol Packin' Mama, except the .38 is a revolver... Thanks for telling us, I think I'll avoid that reservation myself; it doesn't sound like ideal vacation routing.
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Kevin and I have talked about a fiberglass rally featuring Indian tacos for the main meal. We have looked at deep fat fryers, and I scouted out recipes for low carb versions of frybread. And wasabi for dessert. It is on our radar. I just have to get tenure first. Working on papers.

If you get the chance, try the Lakota recipe for wasabi (like a blueberry pudding) as dessert for your Indian tacos. My Lakota friends say that it is supposed to go over the frybread, but I have made it here at home over ricotta cheese. Mmmm.


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Melissa,

If you take 18 again through Rosebud Rez and Pine Ridge Rez, do it in the daylight for your own safety. I say that because even the people who run the organization where we stay when we volunteer out there do not like to be out after dark. There is too much alcohol and drunk driving. SD puts up little signs where people are killed on the roadside. These little signs get much more frequent the closer you get to Pine Ridge.

Get your gas at Big Bats (although even there, you will be uncomfortable, because on your way to the bathroom, you get stared at. Big Bats is a Shell station that is the local hangout, not alcoholic, but just for mainly old guys shooting the breeze). Get groceries at Sioux Nation in Pine Ridge. It is just about the only grocery store on the Rez and kind of fascinating, to be honest. It looks like a pretty ordinary grocery until you start looking around, and you see the culture, including modern-day culture. The Pine Ridge Thorps are perennial powerhouses at basketball, so we often buy sweatshirts or jackets as you see in my picture where I am eating Aunt Betty's cake.

Get your local school or religious organization to send high schoolers out there (Volunteer Organization on Pine Ridge Reservation | RE-MEMBER). Or go yourself. Kevin and I went the first time on our way to Yellowstone with our Burro. In fact, we got the Burro, because as the time came for our trip, I became uncomfortable with lack of information on sleeping arrangements at the organization where we stay. Turned out just fine, but their website at the time was a little lacking. The organization that we go through is called Re-Member, as in the opposite of dismember, or what happened as a result of Wounded Knee I and II. They build beds, renovate houses, dig outhouses and anything else they can do for the Lakota. Volunteering out there is incredibly rewarding. I guarantee, with every screw I drive when I am out there, I know that I have changed someone's life. As we are talking, I am having Rez envy. Every spring during spring break, we fill our UHaul with local donations, load my university students in the van, and go there to volunteer. We can then sleep in our Uhaul, not with the college kids.

Pine Ridge does have one or two fast food places. It is a dry reservation though, so no beer to go with the pizza. Unfortunately, all too close is White Clay, Nebraska, where Lakota can walk to buy beer. White Clay is almost entirely made up of 3 bars owned by whites who have gotten rich by selling beer to the Lakota. Four million cans a year. Don't drive your girls through there; I take my students, so they better understand, but your girls don't need to see yet.

Oh, and the Lakota will not look at you in the face. That is considered rude. Their handshake is 2 fingers. Any other kind is considered rude. That kind of handshake can come off as less than polite, but that is their culture.

Well, enough of my going on and on. This country has not done well by their indigenous populations, and unfortunately, they continue to blow it. They will drop by the Rez, make a speech, drop some money, and then leave. I don't know the solution, but it can't be a one-shot deal and has to be done with the tribes, not to the tribes.

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Old 08-08-2011, 05:31 PM   #22
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Kevin and I have talked about a fiberglass rally featuring Indian tacos for the main meal. We have looked at deep fat fryers, and I scouted out recipes for low carb versions of frybread. And wasabi for dessert. It is on our radar. I just have to get tenure first. Working on papers.

If you get the chance, try the Lakota recipe for wasabi (like a blueberry pudding) as dessert for your Indian tacos. My Lakota friends say that it is supposed to go over the frybread, but I have made it here at home over ricotta cheese. Mmmm.


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Wasabi is a spicy condiment made from the grated root of the plant and used like mustard. I think you mean "Wozapi" which is a fruit dessert. We have eaten it made with chokecherries and dipped in fry bread and it is the best ever! I have the recipe in an Indian cookbook compiled by United Tribes in Bismarck ND.
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In 2008 we ended up in Interior, SD down a dirtroad in a little campground just outside Interior after getting blocked by an early snow storm in Rapid City. Next time we'll check out the Woodenknife, thanks for the tip.

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Woodenknife Cafe has been closed for years as the website states, but I think they still market their frybread mix in the grocery stores. It is excellent.
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so it has, here is another link
Navajo Fry Bread, Indian Fry Bread, Indian Fry Bread Recipe, Indian Taco, Navajo Fry Bread History and Recipe, Indian Tacos History and Recipe, Bread Recipes
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CindyL, your program sounds terrific and you have some lucky students.

I've been to a couple of the poorest spots in the western hemisphere, neighborhoods in Haiti and Nicaragua, and it's pretty tragic to be able to say that our native american reservations give those places a run for their money in terms of misery.

And while there is nothing ennobling about crushing poverty, it's useful to be smart instead of fearful, and open to talking and meeting people. Not every random person is trying to hurt us. <---this is something I had the hardest time convincing people about when I walked by myself across pennsylvania. There were people who chased me down the road with muffins and glasses of iced tea and apples for my horse, yet were absolutely certain something terrible was going to happen to me. Lesson: there are more generous people out there than malicious ones.
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You are certainly right. I never get that right. I always have to ask Kevin, and since he was working, and I could not ask him, I blew it.

Here is a recipe for Wojapi, but this is not the one I used: American Indian Health - Recipes . I used this one, but I subbed in a low carb alternative to cornstarch and then put it over ricotta cheese.

I am feeling an Indian taco/wojapi meal coming to Oak Park in the near future.

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Old 08-09-2011, 08:09 AM   #27
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My wife and I have just completed a driving trip between San Antonio, TX. and Prescott, AZ. We like doing the route staying off of freeways, and manage to only have to drive about 24 miles od freeway the whole trip. One thing that we have noticed is everytime we drive this route, and we do often to visit my 93 year young mother-in law, is we see more places to camp. Some are commercial camp grounds, some are BLM, State Parks, etc. We now know of a place that we could camp along the route about every 200-300 miles. When just driving, as we do now, we make the whole 1,100 miles in two days. When we get a camper, we expect to make the same trip in 3-4 days and enjoy some very pretty places to camp.

Using $700 for gas for a 2,300 mile trip doesn't sound all that bad, When towing a trailer, as you averaged $3.29 for a gallon of gas. Not bad

Anyway it sounds like you had a great trip, and you all will remember the trip. thanks for sharing
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Wow, those recipes sound yummy! Maybe they could be a dish at a Rally sometime.

Very interesting but sad History behind the reservations. They dont teach this stuff in school any more. Maybe if they did more folks would know about the situation and could help.
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