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Old 03-17-2018, 09:04 PM   #43
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As I write this, the exchange rate for CDN is 76 cents to $1 USD. That's like buying a $30,000 trailer for $22,800 for US buyers!
What happened to your avatar? I miss that wonderful flower hat!

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What happened to your avatar? I miss that wonderful flower hat!

And what about the other copy cats?
Oh I'll be back eventually. We're all going to the fabulous 50th Boler Anniversary Event and Caravan!!!

JOIN US, IT'S GOING TO BE A TON OF FUN!
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:58 AM   #45
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The op has not mentioned her tow vehicle which may be a limiting factor. I owned a 2012 Escape 19, up graded to an Escape 21 in 2014 and then went back to a 2016 Escape 19. Reason, we did not need the extra space and weight. The 19 weighs approximately 10% less than the 21 or about 400 pounds. The 19 is narrower and depending on your tow mirrors, no extensions are needed whereas with the 21 I had to clip on mirror extensions to see down the trailer sides. I currently avg 14-15 mpg towing the 19. Also the 19 has windows on all sides whereas the 21 does not have a window in the front. You can make the front dinette into a permanent bed for a solo camper and the rear into a lounge area, the best of both worlds. I never used my oven in my 21 as we cooked outside or used a crock pot. Just my observations from someone who has had both models and decided one was better suited than the other. I high recommend the thermal frameless awning windows offered as well as the extra insulation package, makes for a quiet and cozy unit.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:11 AM   #46
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Oh I'll be back eventually. We're all going to the fabulous 50th Boler Anniversary Event and Caravan!!!

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Maybe put the logo in your signature instead?
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:40 PM   #47
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The op has not mentioned her tow vehicle which may be a limiting factor. I owned a 2012 Escape 19, up graded to an Escape 21 in 2014 and then went back to a 2016 Escape 19. Reason, we did not need the extra space and weight. The 19 weighs approximately 10% less than the 21 or about 400 pounds. The 19 is narrower and depending on your tow mirrors, no extensions are needed whereas with the 21 I had to clip on mirror extensions to see down the trailer sides. I currently avg 14-15 mpg towing the 19. Also the 19 has windows on all sides whereas the 21 does not have a window in the front. You can make the front dinette into a permanent bed for a solo camper and the rear into a lounge area, the best of both worlds. I never used my oven in my 21 as we cooked outside or used a crock pot. Just my observations from someone who has had both models and decided one was better suited than the other. I high recommend the thermal frameless awning windows offered as well as the extra insulation package, makes for a quiet and cozy unit.
Am I the op? Does that stand for operator? Just a guess on my part- Im not hip to the lingo here

My tow vehicle is a 2017 Chevy express extended body V8 with the door sticker stating I can tow 8,500. Im not sure exactly how wide the van is, but easy enough to check. The 21 is 4 wider than the 19 IIRC, so not sure if I would need clip on mirror extensions or not. I dont think I would use the oven a lot if I did option it, but I do love to bake... Im sure you know you can also option a front window on the 21? Ive been van dwelling since October 2017, and I happen to enjoy the den-like experience of sleeping without a window right up beside the bed. Its very womb like, not that I remember, but you get me? Maybe Im part dog and like a cozy, dim den for a bed!

I think all that additional insulation is a smart option to add.
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Am I the op? Does that stand for operator? Just a guess on my part- Im not hip to the lingo here .
OP is an abbreviation for "original poster" or "originally posted". That's you because you started the thread.
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OP is an abbreviation for "original poster" or "originally posted". That's you because you started the thread.
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me, I was a 5%er before I retired last year... now? hah, 0% ? no wait. 50%? heck if I know.
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Also the 19 has windows on all sides whereas the 21 does not have a window in the front.
actually, a front window is an option on the E21, one I wish we didn't have. the window is covered by a flap so it doesn't get destroyed by road debris, and it means you don't get a shelf above the bed so there's nothing within reach to put your glasses and ebook
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Am I the op? Does that stand for operator? Just a guess on my part- Im not hip to the lingo here
yeah, OP == Original Poster, eg, the one who asked the innocent question that all us armchair experts will expound upon endlessly.


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My tow vehicle is a 2017 Chevy express extended body V8 with the door sticker stating I can tow 8,500. Im not sure exactly how wide the van is, but easy enough to check. The 21 is 4 wider than the 19 IIRC, so not sure if I would need clip on mirror extensions or not. I dont think I would use the oven a lot if I did option it, but I do love to bake...
my 2008 (gen 2) tacoma is considerably narrower than your Express van, and I only barely needed mirror extenders, in fact, I just used a driver side extender part of the way driving my 'new' E21 home the 1800 miles from dallas to santa cruz via reno... your Van will do just fine pulling most *any* fiberglass van, but if its a 1500, do watch your payload, a well optioned 1500 has less net payload than you might think. but an extended body van is probably a 3500, so sky is the limit. hah.
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Now I am confused, sorry.
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John where do you live in ca. I know cool some areas


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John where do you live in ca. I know cool some areas


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I've lived in Santa Cruz proper the last 25 years, south Santa Cruz county for about 6 years before that, and previously, Monterey/Pacific Grove, and before that in the early 70s, Marin County... SF in the 1960s as a kidlet to teen.

I've been pretty much all over the central and northern parts of the state, as well as the deserts of Death Valley and Mojave... I've mostly avoided LA and San Diego except for a few trips for business or family or fun.

and there's still 1000s of cool places I've not seen.
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