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Old 05-12-2015, 07:34 AM   #29
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Cathi, a little story to confirm your thought, a previous death had sent me off on the same RV path and was responsible for my typical 5 year stay in a job.

When we got married Ginny began teaching 5th grade and I went to work for a relatively small company. My job was to make what ever the president wanted. He was a wonderful man. A customer would say 'I needed a ladder to the moon; he would respond with 'What color?'. The company became successful by doing what wasn't being done or what others thought couldn't be done.

As president he would walk up to an engineer and just take him off his defined job. I was hired to be the president's guy to prevent him from being disruptive in his own company. Really a fun job because he would ask me to make a whatever that I knew nothing about. Early on I was sent to NM for 3 months and saw my first mountain, a shocking sight. Mountains alone are enough reason to buy an RV and go west.

Mountain interest tweaked, that summer Ginny and I drove to the Rockies on vacation.

Ginny became pregnant. When we returned we learned my Dad had pancreatic Cancer. He died the day before our son was born. I was 25. After he died I came home one day and said to Ginny, lets sell the house, buy a trailer and travel until we spend all our money... really not too much money because we were just starting in life. 'Masterful Ginny' said sure. We went out and bought a tow vehicle, 24 foot stick built trailer and put our house up for sale.

I went into work and told the president. He calmly said I understand what you're feeling. (His Dad had been taken by Hitler's SS to never be seen again.)

The next day the President came back and said, We have an offer. Take you wife and son and go to Nice, France. Stay there until you feeling better. We'll find things for you to do in Europe. (Now there's a great boss.)

After about 3 months in Nice two friends called me and asked me if I wanted to start an electronic music company....I responded "I can't even play a whistle".

I came back, sold the trailer and was off on a new path.

"Not sure either one of you has changed because of it, according to what you have said, only your life together. You now have the time to appreciate things you have never been able to, and to have an unhurried and more enjoyable life, seeing much that others are missing. It is probably a very enviable life to most on here."

I do think we've changed.

I've changed. I am Ginny focused where in the past work and engagement were my focus. I would very often do 70 hour weeks and work every day. I accept challenge and am a finisher.

Ginny's changed. Ginny was perfectly happy in her work, family and life. We mostly had adequate funds to do what we wanted. She had no need to take this step other than for me. It was a big step and actually she only stopped working a couple of days before we hit the road, probably expecting (and maybe hoping) for another 'Nice event'.

We've both changed in that we're closer than ever, communicate better than ever and I'm happier than ever.

"You must have had the interest in RVing already but no time to do it? Then suddenly it was the only thing to do."

Though some 30 years earlier we had bought 'the trailer that never left the yard', in those following 30 years I never had a thought about RVing, never read a book and knew no one who did it. While my roommate was dying we stopped at Bahia Honda State Park in FL and that was the trigger, no analysis, just a spontaneous response.

I can be spontaneous. My sister-in-law says if I were an Eskimo, a salesman could sell me a refrigerator. All I know is life is short.. do something to have fun.. it's a good model for your kids and grandkids.

"As to only thing to do."

Hope this doesn't sound bad, but I can always find something interesting to do. The reality is that there is more things to do than one has time to do. As well each of us has more capability than we will ever tap or worse try to tap. In the simple case of traveling about we will never see it all. It's not a sad thing just reality.

I am a diverse reader, a lot of non-fiction. I see all kinds of topics that I only visit in books that could attract me to a new path. Right now, if I were younger, I'd start a trailer company just because I don't see what I want.

One of my thoughts in most of my writing is that life can be fun, maximizing the fun is possible. As well, work at improving the relationships that are most important, the one with yourself and with your partner, it really helps the RVing experience and can make it the time of your life.

Thanks Cathi, it benefits me to write about our road life. One needs to consider the past, but not dwell on it, to write the future.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:08 AM   #30
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I can't tell you how much I have learned from this site in the past 18 months but I'm pretty sure that this is my favorite thread ever!!! Thanks Norm.

"Right now, if I were younger, I'd start a trailer company just because I don't see what I want."

Probably more appropriate for another thread but I would love to hear your thoughts on that subject.
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Norm, I think I've figured out your dilemma about the earth losing magnetism. It has to do with the Law of Conservation of Energy. Over the last 15 years, as you and Ginny have been drawn closer and closer together, your bond has strengthened and the magnetism between you has increased significantly. Since there is only so much energy in the universe, you must be drawing from the earth's magnetism as your own increases.
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Rick. I''ve tried to start a thread on a small trailer to hopefully reflect a more functional trailer once before without success. Actually I wrote Scamp a long multi-page letter at one time trying to encourage them to extend their line in a new direction. If they had followed up I probably would have interrupted my travels for a year as a free worker.

Pete, Though I love the thought, I wish your suggestion was reality about magnetism. I have done a lot of reading on the subject, attempting to understand the source of the earth's magnetism. I am amazed how every time believes they, to an extent, know it all. The reality is we don't making it fun to consider and thankfully Ginny is enticed to think about it as well.

One of my favorite recent figures was Buckminster Fuller, hence our Geodesic Dome. He spent a lot of his life thinking and playing. Our lifestyle provides a lot of opportunity for 'musing'.
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Norm, I would love to see that multi-page letter -- or an update of it -- that you wrote to Scamp. Perhaps you could start a new thread about building the ideal molded fiberglass camper, assuming you even stayed with fiberglass. We could discuss pros and cons and the engineers could introduce reality checks from time to time. I don't even have my new Casita yet, but I already want it to be different! But at the same time, I want to read more about how you two became who you are....
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Wendy,
A little quick one... previously posted somewhere.

When I was in high school I read how my Dad met my Mom. They did not have a good marriage.

I recognized when you fall in love you really become joyously blinded. When I was in high school I decided that love needed to be a conscious choice. I actually made a list of the people I thought would make a good partner and eventually dated them all. Ginny was on the list.

I met Ginny as a sophomore in high school and got our first date our senior year. I was forever at her house before that first date immersing myself in an absolutely wonderful family. I was well loved there.

We stopped dating after high school but we were always good friends. I wrote to her all through college and we began dating after my sophomore year of college and were engaged during the summer between my junior and senior years.

I absolutely believe in friends first, really getting to know someone..the love just happens.

Wendy, if you have particular interest in some part of our lives other than RVing let me know and I'll PM. I suspect most people are more into our RV lives.

Thank you for your interest.
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Old 05-12-2015, 02:38 PM   #35
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Changes for Ginny

Ginny’s big one revolves around people and work. Surprisingly she does not miss work but does miss family and friends. The fact that we’re home on average for 4 months does alleviate the situation, however now we focus on family and neighbors more than old friends.

The big positive change is learning about things and seeing so much mind expanding places, her first response again surprised me when she mentioned the Missoula Floods, something new to her, well worth reading about.

Missoula Floods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For me from observing Ginny, it was things I didn’t know about her, things that never came up. She absolutely loves trains, even coal trains, thrilled if we're first at a crossing. Ships, dams, rivers and locks fall into “I can watch it for hours’. One night camped between the N/S west coast train track and the Columbia river she got to count trains and ships while I slept.

One more, when we take the NL Ferry that let you come into the dock area 12 hours before departure. We are virtually always the first non-commercial vehicle in line. This allows Ginny to watch the loading of the ship. I generally read or nap. We do take meal breaks, walking into town or grabbing a bite from the trailer.

Ginny is not fond of unknown dogs though she loved our’s and some friend’s dogs (She’s been bitten). She’s also shy of bears but really loves animals. She’s kept a log of the number of moose, caribou and bears on trips. Seeing animals first is just above a kids game for us as we travel. We even tracked down where the first 4 Moose were imported to Newfoundland,,,the four turned into 150,000.

We have settled into the easy life, hardly ever yearning for what was, but seeking the new.
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Hope this doesn't sound bad, but I can always find something interesting to do. The reality is that there is more things to do than one has time to do. As well each of us has more capability than we will ever tap or worse try to tap. In the simple case of traveling about we will never see it all. It's not a sad thing just reality.


One of my thoughts in most of my writing is that life can be fun, maximizing the fun is possible. As well, work at improving the relationships that are most important, the one with yourself and with your partner, it really helps the RVing experience and can make it the time of your life.

Thanks Cathi, it benefits me to write about our road life. One needs to consider the past, but not dwell on it, to write the future.
It does not sound bad at all that that there are more things to do than one has time to do.

The other thought about writing the future is in keeping with your whole life also, looking to the next opportunity for change. Of course, you realize, Norm, that you are no longer really looking for much change, settling into the Florida --- Newfoundland thing. And that makes perfect sense at your advanced ages. You know what you like best and are sticking with it, including being more "Ginny-focused."

We look forward to your next adventure. Of course, every trip has different experiences and new things to see so it always makes for interesting reading. We appreciate your posts on all of this.
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you realize, Norm, that you are no longer really looking for much change, settling into the Florida --- Newfoundland thing. And that makes perfect sense at your advanced ages. You know what you like best and are sticking with it, including being more "Ginny-focused."
Cathi,
You've got the advanced age part right..we're 72. As you age you don't necessarily feel the process except maybe when you find out you're going to be a great grand parent. However our plan is not to settle into FL, we do plan to continue our travels for at least 10 more years.

As to Newfoundland, I see us going back. As much as we've seen, there's always more in a place like that. We have a number of places we just like returning to, places where we don't know a single person well but just love the place.

Though we've driven every non-neighborhood road in Newfoundland, we haven't spent extended period everywhere.
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I would love to go to Newfoundland but doubt I could manage those very long ferries and guess that is the only way. Can always go to Nova Scotia though. It has been on the list forever. Have to get there.
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Cathi, Obviously I don't know your condition that concerns you but Ginny didn't think she could as well. After the first one it's totally disappeared. It's not a ferry in the normal ferry sense, it's really an ocean liner. The duration of the trip is 6 hours. We usually take the night ferry and sleep through the trip.
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Hi Norm & Ginny,

Thanks for all the details. The more information and ideas we share with, and the more we listen to each other, the richer and fuller life is.

Sometimes a seemingly small detail can make a big positive change in one's life.

We will probably never be fulltimers, but your comments are really valuable to me. I'll be reading all that you post in this thread.

You talked about some diet things that make sense. So, today's immediate resolution for me is to buy smaller cakes and less desserts for birthday parties (like we just had for Linda) so that there are less leftover sweets that I am always prone to "finish off". We always have leftover desserts. Less cake, more fruits & vegetables.

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Hi Norm & Ginny,

Thanks for all the details. The more information and ideas we share with, and the more we listen to each other, the richer and fuller life is.

Sometimes a seemingly small detail can make a big positive change in one's life.

We will probably never be fulltimers, but your comments are really valuable to me. I'll be reading all that you post in this thread.

You talked about some diet things that make sense. So, today's immediate resolution for me is to buy smaller cakes and less desserts for birthday parties (like we just had for Linda) so that there are less leftover sweets that I am always prone to "finish off". We always have leftover desserts. Less cake, more fruits & vegetables.

Mark & Linda
Mark, we're not really full timers, just averaging 7.5 months a year.

There are a lot of subtle dietary advantages to being on the road. At home we would probably attend a dozen birthday parties a year, each is minimally cake and ice cream. We live at the beach and have pretty regular company, company often with children and that means cookies and coconut cake and larger meals. Who can resist a few hot chocolate chip cookies? Being away cuts down on guests as well

On the road there is virtually no baking, less entertaining. The plates we use on the road are generally Tupperware plastic square plates , 7.5" on a side, antiques from the '70s. They are decidedly smaller than 'home' plates.

We're not home for Easter, Thanksgiving or Christmas, all big eating times, not so much when traveling. Normally we will celebrate holidays in a campground some where, still a festive meal but for some reason you eat less. Ginny and I cooked a ham and a turkey for a Thanksgiving and Christmas potlucks, plenty of great food but few people went back for seconds. The next day we had a leftovers lunch.

We lost most of our weight in the early years of RVing but are still losing, my goal for this summer is 10 more pounds (down 2 so far). We carry a scale with us and each get on. It's no contest just a reminder.

We've cut way back on bread. Outside of when going out and when entertaining, we only have one slice of bread with breakfast on most days. (Newfoundland is the exception where the bread is just the best.) I asked the good Doctor about it. He said cut out wheat and you'll lose 10 pounds. We both did. We're not religious about it but conscious of wheat. I snack on Gluten free Ginger snaps from Trader Joes. One of those small changes.

My sweetener is honey. I generally avoid sugar except for a treat now and than. Diet soda is gone. I rarely drink a beer and really only drink alcohol at parties. My most common snack is nuts.

We always eat breakfast and 99% of the time at home. A restaurant breakfast is too big..two pieces of toast, two eggs..... for me it is like eating two breakfasts that day.
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Changes for Norm

I asked Ginny what changes she’s seen in me since we hit the road.

She began with I now take more time for others. I never considered that at all in the 15 years on the road. It may be that I have more time. Now I am not seeking to break off a conversation so I can get on with the tasks before me, even if they were only circulating in my mind.

She followed that up with I’m more relaxed. The pressure of life has disappeared. Is that because I’m retired or viewing things differently? Certainly we are living a non-rushed existence.

Finally we’re closer, probably because we spend more time together. There's a lot of truth in this, we basically do everything together even when we're home for four months. It's funny even when Ginny goes out for the day I feel an emptiness. Maybe a little of the spoiled child.

Recently in the getting ready to sell the house I've made a lot of runs to the Town's transfer station. I notice that after I load up the Odyssey that Ginny often want's to come with me.

She closed it out by saying I now have time to chase the turkeys… a reference to something I did on one of our first western trips. I know she was laughing.

I will say she wasn't laughing as I crawled up to get a close up of a bison or the time with the foraging black bear.
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