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Old 05-09-2011, 03:11 PM   #15
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Yep, outside doors to access the room under the rear dinette/bed is on the list! Right now we store almost nothing in the benches due to the hassles of trying to lift the cushions, foam and all the bedding (we don't like sleeping bags, want "regular" bedding.)

When precious daughter gets to the age of bringing a friend along, someone will be sleeping on the floor -- but it won't be one of us adults!
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:46 PM   #16
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Yep, outside doors to access the room under the rear dinette/bed is on the list! Right now we store almost nothing in the benches due to the hassles of trying to lift the cushions, foam and all the bedding (we don't like sleeping bags, want "regular" bedding.)

When precious daughter gets to the age of bringing a friend along, someone will be sleeping on the floor -- but it won't be one of us adults!
Darnelle,

Here's a tip from Cheapskate Central!
The access doors you see in the picture below are actually fridge vent covers- about $27.00 apiece when I bought them a few years back...
Not only were they MUCH cheaper than official "luggage compartment" doors, they were the only doors I could find that fit the area available.
You can see that I had to install my running lights on the door faces, but I wanted to replace the originals with the LED's in the picture anyway, so that was no big deal...

Francesca

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Old 05-10-2011, 09:24 AM   #17
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Thank you Francesca! I've only looked at boat supply dealers for compartment doors and the prices were ouch! Did you block the venting, or am I not seeing the photo correctly?
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:33 AM   #18
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Cyndi, How long have you been full timing in it? It may take some time to find what works best where and what needs to go.

I understand you have to use it for now, but truly it wasn't made to be full timed in. I am sure you understand that. Not fair to blame the trailer!


As important as finding the perfect rv for someones full timing needs would be down sizing as well. I understand you want certain luxury's with you. But honestly your trailer isn't made for the luxury's as well as living in it. As you know there is only so much space in a 13ft Boler. It may take time, but eventually you will find what works for you. But just a gentle suggestion is you might be trying to have to much stuff with you in a 13 ft trailer.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:15 AM   #19
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Cyndi,
Full timing requires configuring the trailer for the full time life style and changing your view of what it takes to survive happily in a small space.

Unfortunately almost no one manufacturers a trailer for the full time life style. Obviously with the bunk configuration you have, the trailer was designed for a family, two adults and two (well behaved) small children.

We have a Scamp 16; it is layed out similarly to your rig, front couch/bunk and rear dinette. One difference is that it has a side bath and larger kitchen.

We have decided to sleep on the dinette and make it into a bed each night. We have replaced the dinette table top with a smaller table top. This makes the dinette easier to sit at. You could do the same thing, since it sounds like you are alone, and have a small table you could quickly drop down to make a bed for one of any width (the width of the table).

I'm not knowledgeable of the Boler, but like most trailers their is a lot of storage space. Generally it just needs to be made handy to use. For example in one side of our dinette bench there is nothing. Unfortunately the only access is thru the top.

To make use easier we are putting three side-by-side draws in it. Each draw contains a plastic bin with cover. Three of these are adequate for all my wife's clothes except for one or two semi dress outfits she carries.

We also have two more bins that fit under the center of the front couch.

One other potential storage space addition for us is one end of the couch. We are building a cabinet that will go over one end of the couch (so our legs can still fit under it. for jeans and sweater storage. We carry no winter clothes or heavy jackets even when going north, layering instead with sweaters and the like.

Unlike many on these sites we carry little in the way of pots and pans. We carry two frying pans, one pasta pot, one corning wear dish with cover and one small pan. As well we carry a collapsible strainer. We have no micro wave, no mixer, no oven, no electric frying pan, no stove top skillet. We do have an electric coffee pot and a toaster. If we were to add one thing it would be a small, slow cooker.

I do plan to add two small storage containers to the rear bumper for hoses and the like.

We do carry two computers, a net book and a laptop. As well we have a wireless hotspot. Being gone so long the computer allows us to do most everything from movies, banking, news and just staying in touch.

It turns out the refigerators are small so you'll be shopping a lot so in general there's not a lot of reason to carry a lot of food, though when we're going really out of the way we carry a little more.

As to things like bedding and towels. We carry one change of sheets, two blankets, one electric and an additional one for boondocking. We have each have a bath towel and a beach towel.

For shoes we each have a pair of Keens, good general purpose hiking and even dress shoes, a pair of sneakers and Ginny carries a pair of dress shoes. We each have rain jackets and a sweater or the like in the car, useful when out hiking about (as well we have a small backpack in the car for the same reason).

I agree the corners are a pain, but anything made is a one time event. It's possible to buy cabinets for over the dinette or over the couch for the Boler that will greatly extend your storage. If you're interested I'll dig up the name of a rather nice guy who sells them for you and other Boler parts.

Of all the suggestions the table one is very easy to do and would provide you with a comfortable sleeping area that you could setup in minutes.

I could write on this subject for a long time and would be happy to answer any specific questions. Please do not hesitate to send me a private email for any reason. If you want instructions for a smaller table let me know.

It's a great life and welcome.

Norm
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:35 AM   #20
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I have a lot to learn. My under bed storage is empty! everything i have i need out b/c i use it everyday. i cleared out all my camping gear to make way for the living stuff. i think i found the way that will work the best though. the only problem is a desk/table. Ive left the bottom dinette table out under the top bunk but cant open the laptop on it. I may have to get slider hardware.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:41 PM   #21
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Thank you Francesca! I've only looked at boat supply dealers for compartment doors and the prices were ouch! Did you block the venting, or am I not seeing the photo correctly?
Hi, Darnelle,

The vents are blocked with that foil-sided bubble wrap stuff.
Maybe I'll take some pics and start a Mods thread on my Eternal Quest for more storage!

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Old 05-10-2011, 02:55 PM   #22
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Pete Dumbleton ( I miss him so) made a nice bed set up over the rear bed which gives one a bed, a place to sit and access to the rear storage. I've looked but can't find the pictures.
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Here's one post with a pic of Pete's back bunk

Single instead of a bunk bed
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:38 PM   #24
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Thanks Vickie, that's it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:51 PM   #25
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No, i don't have too much stuff. It is fairly minimal. 50% of the space is wasted due to the square shelves/drawers not fitting the curved walls. If i had the energy I'd make curved shelving but i don't. Actually i have a lot of empty space in here, and the usable space is crammed full. but you do have a point about not blaming the trailer. they are fancy tents. To live in i would choose square. It is better now that i have rearranged 5x though.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:54 PM   #26
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Cyndi,
Full timing requires configuring the trailer for the full time life style and changing your view of what it takes to survive happily in a small space.

Unfortunately almost no one manufacturers a trailer for the full time life style. Obviously with the bunk configuration you have, the trailer was designed for a family, two adults and two (well behaved) small children.

We have a Scamp 16; it is layed out similarly to your rig, front couch/bunk and rear dinette. One difference is that it has a side bath and larger kitchen.

We have decided to sleep on the dinette and make it into a bed each night. We have replaced the dinette table top with a smaller table top. This makes the dinette easier to sit at. You could do the same thing, since it sounds like you are alone, and have a small table you could quickly drop down to make a bed for one of any width (the width of the table).

I'm not knowledgeable of the Boler, but like most trailers their is a lot of storage space. Generally it just needs to be made handy to use. For example in one side of our dinette bench there is nothing. Unfortunately the only access is thru the top.

To make use easier we are putting three side-by-side draws in it. Each draw contains a plastic bin with cover. Three of these are adequate for all my wife's clothes except for one or two semi dress outfits she carries.

We also have two more bins that fit under the center of the front couch.

One other potential storage space addition for us is one end of the couch. We are building a cabinet that will go over one end of the couch (so our legs can still fit under it. for jeans and sweater storage. We carry no winter clothes or heavy jackets even when going north, layering instead with sweaters and the like.

Unlike many on these sites we carry little in the way of pots and pans. We carry two frying pans, one pasta pot, one corning wear dish with cover and one small pan. As well we carry a collapsible strainer. We have no micro wave, no mixer, no oven, no electric frying pan, no stove top skillet. We do have an electric coffee pot and a toaster. If we were to add one thing it would be a small, slow cooker.

I do plan to add two small storage containers to the rear bumper for hoses and the like.

We do carry two computers, a net book and a laptop. As well we have a wireless hotspot. Being gone so long the computer allows us to do most everything from movies, banking, news and just staying in touch.

It turns out the refigerators are small so you'll be shopping a lot so in general there's not a lot of reason to carry a lot of food, though when we're going really out of the way we carry a little more.

As to things like bedding and towels. We carry one change of sheets, two blankets, one electric and an additional one for boondocking. We have each have a bath towel and a beach towel.

For shoes we each have a pair of Keens, good general purpose hiking and even dress shoes, a pair of sneakers and Ginny carries a pair of dress shoes. We each have rain jackets and a sweater or the like in the car, useful when out hiking about (as well we have a small backpack in the car for the same reason).

I agree the corners are a pain, but anything made is a one time event. It's possible to buy cabinets for over the dinette or over the couch for the Boler that will greatly extend your storage. If you're interested I'll dig up the name of a rather nice guy who sells them for you and other Boler parts.

Of all the suggestions the table one is very easy to do and would provide you with a comfortable sleeping area that you could setup in minutes.

I could write on this subject for a long time and would be happy to answer any specific questions. Please do not hesitate to send me a private email for any reason. If you want instructions for a smaller table let me know.

It's a great life and welcome.

Norm
I'd love the contact for the cupboards. There was a guy in ontario who made them but i cant find his info now. Back in the camping days i never ordered b/c i never needed.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:59 PM   #27
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good ideas! I'd like to make an access door under the door side dinette seat but there is no energy for any mods now. Its 'as is' I am done with a capital D. OK, i am adding a slider to the dinette table i made out of the front sofa support but only b/c i cant open my laptop fully w/o hitting the top bunk
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:55 PM   #28
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I'd love the contact for the cupboards. There was a guy in ontario who made them but i cant find his info now. Back in the camping days i never ordered b/c i never needed.
I think this is the contact you are looking for, Fibreglass RV Parts, Repairs, and Service by Paul Neumeister. I was fortunate to have a handy neighbor who made my cupboards above the table/main bed.

Do you have pictures of your present set-up?

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