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05-08-2011, 05:14 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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arrrgh! New fulltimer.
I am on my 4th try at arranging and nothing is working. I HATE the roundness and if i could do it again i wouldnt buy a boler. (Gasp!  ) The round corners suck for space arrangement. i dont have time or energy to be making fancy curved shelves. On the up side, got the pump working, the fridge working, and the shore water to stop leaking. Now if i could just arrange my clothes and small appliances as well as a place to sit i'd be in heaven. I had to put the double bed out. The bunks were the solution to the storage sitting issue, but i couldnt sleep. In the bottom bunk i couldnt turn over w/o hitting my elbows on the ceiling or open my laptop b/c it would hit the roof too, and on the top bunk i couldnt turn over w/o hitting the wall. Not to mention being so close i feared i'd fall off edge. I will say it. the design sucks from a practical sense. Cute yes, functional no. I wont give up......I need pics of full time layouts please. Help!
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05-08-2011, 05:37 PM
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Trailer: U-Haul 1985
Posts: 1,422
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Maybe a 16'er is more what you need. I love my little 13foot, but I use it on weekends. I could not fulltime in it. I'd need something with a little more elbow room... maybe even a scamp 5th wheel.
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05-08-2011, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Greg
Trailer: 72 Boler American
Indiana
Posts: 1,553
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You shouldn't be on the top bunk anyway, unless you are a real little petite thing, I love my round trailer, maybe you have too much stuff with you.
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05-08-2011, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Escape E14RB (sold the Burro)
Oklahoma
Posts: 2,216
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Perhaps you should dismount the seat-back cushion (or replace it) and remove the 'top bunk' assembly altogether. Attach a fishnet to the ceiling and stow your back cushion in there when sleeping, and if you want to sit there during daytime just grab the cushion and put it into place for you to sit back against.
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Mike G.
Oklahoma
Lil Hauly (empty Snoozy shell) on order!
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05-08-2011, 07:37 PM
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Trailer: U-Haul 1985
Posts: 1,422
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Mike's post about the bunk is true. I took off my bunk that folded down as a backrest for the seat, and then reworked the cushion to fit the (now much wider) seat area. This gives me a very comfortable sleeping bench at the front, and I can leave the table set up at the back.
I haven't tried the fishnet storage, but that is a great idea!
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05-08-2011, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2005 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 174
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no bunk for me
I had my son build me a platform to pull out about a foot which gives me plenty of room to turn over on when sleeping. It also gives my little terrier more room to sleep. She insists on sleeping with me when we travel. I'll get a picture soon. He used USB and three legs. One leg is right against the refrigerator, one leg is a little over 1/2 way across and the third leg is near the door. I am going to cover the USB contact paper which will hopefully make it easier to pull out and make it slippery and will protect the cushion from snagging and protect the fiberglass underneath. The only thing I will have to remember is to pull the porta-potti out from underneath before I go to bed. No problem. I glued four pieces of foam together and covered it with two pillow cases. This mattress extension will also make a good cushion to lean against when using the bunk for a seat during the day. The top bunk I keep stored in my house, just in case I would ever want to use it again. Marg in NW California
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05-08-2011, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pam Garlow
Maybe a 16'er is more what you need. I love my little 13foot, but I use it on weekends. I could not full time in it. I'd need something with a little more elbow room... maybe even a scamp 5th wheel.
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I don't think bigger is my solution, although it may be in the future. Any size in the future will be square. Ive actually got a lot of empty space in here (I'm good with space planning) its just so much of it is unusable b/c of the roundness. drawers and counters don't fit in tight b/c they hit one curve or another. Tomorrow i seek more stackable drawers.
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05-08-2011, 10:07 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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I fit, just hit the wall with elbows when turning over. too high up there for me.
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05-08-2011, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Magee
Perhaps you should dismount the seat-back cushion (or replace it) and remove the 'top bunk' assembly altogether. Attach a fishnet to the ceiling and stow your back cushion in there when sleeping, and if you want to sit there during daytime just grab the cushion and put it into place for you to sit back against.
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I don't want to make any design changes to it b/c i did a lot of work on it to get it versatile for camping luxury. However, i took it out of camping mode and into f/t mode. It wont be forever (better not be) so i want to be able to use it as a camper again. i see a square trailer in the future....
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05-08-2011, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marg
I had my son build me a platform to pull out about a foot which gives me plenty of room to turn over on when sleeping. It also gives my little terrier more room to sleep. She insists on sleeping with me when we travel. I'll get a picture soon. He used USB and three legs. One leg is right against the refrigerator, one leg is a little over 1/2 way across and the third leg is near the door. I am going to cover the USB contact paper which will hopefully make it easier to pull out and make it slippery and will protect the cushion from snagging and protect the fiberglass underneath. The only thing I will have to remember is to pull the porta-potti out from underneath before I go to bed. No problem. I glued four pieces of foam together and covered it with two pillow cases. This mattress extension will also make a good cushion to lean against when using the bunk for a seat during the day. The top bunk I keep stored in my house, just in case I would ever want to use it again. Marg in NW California
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I'd love to see pics. My space problem down there was head room. i couldn't turn over w/o hitting elbows on the roof of the bunk. i also couldn't open my laptop in bed b/c it hit the roof too. My bunk supports also bugged me, too close to the face. Tmrw i go to my locker to get my feather bed. oh yeah. Its actually usable just so much wasted space from all the curves.
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05-08-2011, 10:20 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1976 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 283
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The funny thing is b/c i was so busy with the move and getting the trailer organized i forgot about the local rally. i cant go b/c its way too much work to switch the trailer over from f/t to camp mode. plus, I'm a little tired of 'camping' So, I'm going, but staying in a b and b nearby. lol
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05-08-2011, 10:48 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 3,502
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cyndi H
I am on my 4th try at arranging and nothing is working. I HATE the roundness and if i could do it again i wouldnt buy a boler. (Gasp!  ) The round corners suck for space arrangement. i dont have time or energy to be making fancy curved shelves. On the up side, got the pump working, the fridge working, and the shore water to stop leaking. Now if i could just arrange my clothes and small appliances as well as a place to sit i'd be in heaven. I had to put the double bed out. The bunks were the solution to the storage sitting issue, but i couldnt sleep. In the bottom bunk i couldnt turn over w/o hitting my elbows on the ceiling or open my laptop b/c it would hit the roof too, and on the top bunk i couldnt turn over w/o hitting the wall. Not to mention being so close i feared i'd fall off edge. I will say it. the design sucks from a practical sense. Cute yes, functional no. I wont give up......I need pics of full time layouts please. Help!
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Boyoboyoboy, do I know what you're talking about!
As cute as they are, Bolers are not easy spaces to work with...
I had one for a few minutes before I found my Trillium and though I hated to see the little Boler go down the driveway, I really appreciate the extra square inches in the Trillium 
Sometimes an inch or two is the difference between comfort and frustration...
Francesca
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05-09-2011, 10:00 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette
Posts: 226
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My "someday" Wish List includes an old Trillium to restore, partially because it is more square than Scamp or Boler. For now we need the room a 16-footer offers. Tons of storage, but that's partially due to having the front closet instead of a bath. We have the SD and keep the rear dinette made into a bed (with extra foam) and store our clothes underneath. Have an extra shelf above the bed installed between the factory side cubicules. Made changes to the large cupboard over the frig for more efficient storage and added a storage area at the side of the frig for campfire tools. We don't fulltime, but we are 2 adults, 1 human child and 1 95-lb. canine child. Everyday items are reached without moving anything else.
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05-09-2011, 10:30 AM
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#14
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 3,502
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Hi, Darnelle
I know what you mean about maximizing storage space- the closet in my Trillium is our pantry!
We travel with a dog- person, too, and often with our two grandkids.
We even get to sleep in the trailer if the kids don't bring a couple of friends along...
When they do, Grandma and Grandpa sleep in a tent 
The best storage improvement I ever made was to install outside access doors at all four corners of the trailer. No more unloading benches to get at the storage underneath!
All of our outside "camp" gear is readily accessible (including the "spare room" tent).
We even keep long things like oars, fishing poles, and umbrellas up front where the bench extends across the trailer.
Love it!
Francesca
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