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Old 10-25-2015, 12:07 PM   #29
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So much wisdom in these posts - glad I investigated the 'new posts' today. I appreciate other peoples' experiences and thoughts. We are getting close to retirement ourselves and I wrestle with many ideas! So many, I drive myself crazy. Very grateful we have a small camper we can nestle into the woods and peace out from time to time.

Thanking everyone for their insight.
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Old 10-25-2015, 01:08 PM   #30
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On our long drive to FL Ginny and I were discussing Mark's decision and considering how it's gone for us.

Ginny said we have had 8 homes, all in the same general area except for our NH summer home which actually became the one we owned the longest, some 30 years. She loved them all but misses none. Life's path can be new and interesting while being different. Love continues anew.

This is not to suggest staying put or traveling lightly is bad at all. For us we seem to love where ever we are. Of course we miss the people from our past but somehow we manage to see them all for a time every year. We also have come to love numerous people we've met in 15 years of travel. Many are really 'interestingly different' than the people of our past and just as easy to love and care about.
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Old 10-25-2015, 01:19 PM   #31
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How many folks go the route of buying a small plot of land, maybe 5 acres, and putting a small storage shed, electric and water system in? Then just use this as a home base, spending maybe 5 months there, and traveling the rest of the time.

This would allow for doing some gardening, staying close to family/friends etc. but still not have to maintain a house with all the associated costs and maintenance. This is the plan I'm considering. I assume it's been done before, any thoughts on how it works out?
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Old 10-25-2015, 01:41 PM   #32
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How many folks go the route of buying a small plot of land, maybe 5 acres, and putting a small storage shed, electric and water system in? Then just use this as a home base, spending maybe 5 months there, and traveling the rest of the time.

This would allow for doing some gardening, staying close to family/friends etc. but still not have to maintain a house with all the associated costs and maintenance. This is the plan I'm considering. I assume it's been done before, any thoughts on how it works out?
I think it sounds lovely. I live in Oregon. Any land of that size has already been snapped up by housing contractors or isn't zoned for housing. Or isn't close to any town of any size. I hope it works for you!
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:10 PM   #33
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Change of heart on fulltiming

I suspect it will be tricky, too.

Arizona does have plenty of land with minimal zoning restrictions where something like that is possible. However it tends to be undesirable plots far from town and often far from paved roads. In addition, it tends to attract... how to say this politely... fringe elements?... as neighbors.

I believe there are age-restricted communities where the "houses" are more like RV docks. But they tend to be picky about what sort of RV you have, and packed in like sardines.

I'm not saying give up, though. It does sound like a nice compromise between traditional home ownership and full-timing. I hope you'll share what you find out.

I prefer to go the route of a small, low maintenance cottage-size house with on-site RV parking so my trailer can become a guest house.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:29 PM   #34
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Lyle,

We've traveled the country and there are all kinds of places where you can buy a situation like you describe, the issue is it may not be near your existing friends and family.

As to friends and family, there have been yers where we've seen our most distant relative more than we've seen all our local relatives combined in terms of total hours. Just because you live in the same town does not mean you see someone a lot. One year we spent a month in our son's driveway and saw him for many hours virtually every day.

The travel life time shouldn't be thought of from the perspective of past life experiences. Different opportunities and methods for those traveling in a little trailer.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:52 PM   #35
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Mark, if the Escapees organization is any indication, most full timers spend years preparing to go full-time. They have usually been on the road a good deal in previous years and have an idea of what that entails and what the life is like. There is the "Class of 2015" mostly now on the road and the "Class of 2016" getting through their plans of getting an RV and selling their house, and the "Class of 2017" behind them with their to-do lists.

Once you go out for a month or two a few times, you will have a much better idea of the situation. I think most full-timers would say that they spend on the road about what they spent when they lived at home because that is how they structure their RV life. Some less. Some stay in their RV in their home area for many months and then only go to a second area for the other months, while some move around quite a bit when not "home."

Others do just travel around all of the time, seemingly with no real home area, but that is probably the exception. They may soon be looking for a more permanent place to stay. In fact, many are looking for such a place with their travels and that was one big reason that they went full time. You already have that so you would not be looking for that. There are plenty who do full-time from "home." They do not want the maintenance and expense of a house which they consider to be much greater than for an RV.

So many of them are actually living much as you are proposing for yourself. I would say that the majority of people who are full-timers or close really have a home base and the ones who don't are looking for one.
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You've received lots of support from our FGRV "family". There's nothing much I can add.

I got to thinking, though, what FGRVs have high headroom? I think most owners are on the average or short side. I am 5'4" and my husband is 5'9". The Scamp is "just right" for us in head room and bed room.

The Lil' Snoozy has 6'4" headroom. Trailer Specifications: Camper: Smoakin Concepts Composites
The Happier Camper has 6'2" headroom. Happier Camper | Ultra-light Travel and Utility Trailers
The Alpine Chalet is 8' at the highest point. This is a A-frame pop-up. Trailer Specifications: Camper: Smoakin Concepts Composites

Others on this forum will, most certainly, have relevant information.

Best to you upon your retirement. Personally, I prefer the term "renewment".
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:36 AM   #37
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Actually, Cathi, that was my original plan - find somewhere near "home" to park and live in my RV for one or two months at a time when not on the road. But to do so, I would want (or need) one of the nicer and more expensive models. I would need a full bathroom and more living space inside. Plus things like SATV, propane/solar/generator modifications. Especially in winter months, I don't think I would be comfortable in tight living quarters year round and when confined for several days to the RV in bad weather. I'm a bit clastrophobic. I've ruled out the $25K+ models. With a truck in the same $25+ range, that's too much of an investment on a lifestyle I am not sure I will want to do for an extended time. I see myself more of a fair weather traveller. Having said that, I have not ruled out the plan you stated, at least for the first year or two. My first extended trip will tell me alot about what I can handle - the summer of my retirement I still plan to have my RV ready to hit the road to northern Rockies, Olympia National Park, and south on the Pacific Coast Hwy. After 2-3 months of that, I think I will be ready to head home for a break. I think that trip will tell me much about what I can handle, expenses, and the solo lifestyle.
But I am thinking of going with a used Lil Snoozy, Egg Camper, or something in the $15-18K range instead of the more expensive Oliver, Escape, or Parkline. Wish I could afford something like the new Oliver with all the bells and whistles, just not in my budget.
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Possibly my post reflects a generational shift or just my own way of thinking but there are two differences I notice in my thinking and in that of people just a few years older than me. Granted, what I am about to say is not unilaterally agreed on by everyone in the Generation X age group, (I'm at the very upper end of this group, and 49.)

1. I've never own and never intended to own a home or property.
2. I've never had the idea that I'd be able to retire in the concept as is known by many of the original Baby boomer generation, (possibly cut down to part time if I am lucky.) Reason being is that I've never though it was an option or going to be there for us, (we've already been indoctrinated that it wasn't going to.)

So, home ownership and roots may not be the same thing. The lack of roots for me may be a gypsy style life but, I do feel that I have three or four locations of family/friends, (Arizona, for my parents, Illinois for my Siblings, North Dakota and Montana for close friends and California, for friends also.)

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p.s. I already live in a motel and would expect to do the same if my trailer needed to go in for repairs.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:21 PM   #40
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Actually, Cathi, that was my original plan - find somewhere near "home" to park and live in my RV for one or two months at a time when not on the road. But to do so, I would want (or need) one of the nicer and more expensive models. I would need a full bathroom and more living space inside. Plus things like SATV, propane/solar/generator modifications. Especially in winter months, I don't think I would be comfortable in tight living quarters year round and when confined for several days to the RV in bad weather. I'm a bit clastrophobic. I've ruled out the $25K+ models. With a truck in the same $25+ range, that's too much of an investment on a lifestyle I am not sure I will want to do for an extended time. I see myself more of a fair weather traveller. Having said that, I have not ruled out the plan you stated, at least for the first year or two. My first extended trip will tell me alot about what I can handle - the summer of my retirement I still plan to have my RV ready to hit the road to northern Rockies, Olympia National Park, and south on the Pacific Coast Hwy. After 2-3 months of that, I think I will be ready to head home for a break. I think that trip will tell me much about what I can handle, expenses, and the solo lifestyle.
But I am thinking of going with a used Lil Snoozy, Egg Camper, or something in the $15-18K range instead of the more expensive Oliver, Escape, or Parkline. Wish I could afford something like the new Oliver with all the bells and whistles, just not in my budget.
Mark, you might just get yourself a lower-than-budget-priced egg and use it a while with the idea that you will sell it. That is one possibility. Then you will know what you actually need. For sure, a propane furnace. Solar would be good to see how well that does and get it straight. With extended travel in mind, I would say to have all tanks, black, gray, fresh and then you will know about that. Then you can sell the egg if it does not meet some important features you want and get another one. You should be able to get most of your money back as they tend to hold their value very well. Or maybe you would be lucky and get one you would keep as it meets everything.

In winter, for sure you want to be in the house or far south in an egg. An egg in winter in MO is not worth the trouble. Or in most of the country. It is very limited as to where most RVers are in winter due to the fact that they do not want their water lines freezing and they want to be in a warm place anyway. Few places meet that. You have a good amount of time to figure it all out.
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I have seriously thought of fulltiming when I retire in 2018, but have come to the realization that I can't do it. All the travel to seeing this great country sounds good, but I would be travelling alone and know I would get lonely and miss my life at home. Small things like weekend golf with my buddies, getting together to watch the big game, and seeing family regularly are the highlights of my life. I love to travel, and see other parts of the country, but I also know that not having anyone around to share it with takes most of the joy away.
I have now reset my sights. I still plan to purchase a FB trailer, and I'm actively following this site and others looking for the ideal purchase. I have lowered my expectations (and price range) on the type of RV I want, as I now know it will just be temporary living quarters. I can do without some of the nicer things in life for away. I am now thinking 1 or 2 month trips to different parts of the country I want to see. But I know myself well enough to know that by then I will be ready to get back home to Missouri and have a few beers or a round of golf with friends and family. Those things are more important to me than spending months in the most beautiful spots in the US.
I honestly don't know how people do it year round. I had grandiose plans of living the life, but had to be honest with myself, and know I would not be happy. I've lived in other parts of the country throughout my life, working a thousand miles from home, and remember how after the newness wears off, I get homesick.
Still look forward to this site for advice along the way. Please, God, help me find the ideal Egg Camper, Lil Snoozy, Parkliner, Escape, or other brand to fit my 6'5" frame and make me comfortable to live in for a couple months at a time.
I feel for you Mark, I retired July 2009 and hit the Road 13 days later in a old Dodge Class B had everything I needed for the trip except storage. I had to leave my wife at home (in the end of it all Big Mistake) I really thought of just going across Canada and seeing what it looks like, lots of land out there with nothing out there but crops to feed the people. Lucky for me I met a lot of nice people along the way and they made me feel comfortable where ever I landed. I made it to PEI, NS, but did not make it to NL as the price to go there by myself was outrageous so I skipped it and head to St. Stephens NB and crossed the border. All I can say is Canada is one big piece of property and a lot of nice people live there.
I made it to most places along the East coast, NY,VT, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Louisiana, Pennsylvania, Texas, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, California, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, N.C., S.C., Alabama, WA, Oregon, and a few others I cannot remember, Lots of memories but I did this on my own and I missed my wife the whole trip. I was gone close to 4 months about 20,000 miles, similar amount in pictures, thank the lord for Digital. Made it home for Christmas and friends, traded the Class B for a 2005 Toyota Echo all manual got 44+mpg in city and 60+mpg on hwy. would make a good tow car for MH's. we later on bought a slightly larger Aluminium Class C, Fixed it up and saw some more of the USA but not much of Canada, finally wanting a walk around Queen we bought a 1999 FG Rexhall Vision built in Lancaster Ca but made it's way to us. We did the USA side of my travels with my wife last year 2014 and oh it was so much nicer having company and doing things together.
This past year we did the US I-5 to I-80 to I-95-I29 back to I-80 as have to get around the Great Lakes and worked our way across to Maine (water pump packed it in) so spent a cple of days in Maine visiting museums. Next into Canada, NB drove to Bear River NS lots of history in this place, Digby, Port Royal, Lunenburg location of the Bluenose 2 first one sunk. Blue Rocks in area, Peggy's Cove out of site little place lots of pictures, where the plane came down in 09 nice memorial there. Heading for Sydney to catch the Ferry to NL we made it finally, people are so nice one does not want to leave and if I was 20 years younger we would move to Nova Scotia it has history and is beautiful. We left there and traveled back through Canada and HOME!
Nice to have a home base and still own a house to come home to as that is the best part of the trip. So what ever you do don't sell the house hire a company to rent it out for you while u travel. We were lucky my sister in law looked after the house for us.
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:45 AM   #42
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All very good reads and insights. For me, I don't have a nest egg. Never owned a house. I will have to live on my teacher's pension and a little social security. I will not be able to afford to keep a rental house going at "home" and travel extensively. So it will have to be one or the other - meaning keep my home base and limit my travel to one or two months at a time or go all in with living out of my travel trailer. That realization led me to my decision that I cannot do that. With my limited income, my first RV purchase will have to be the one I keep. I am saving for my RV and pick up truck to travel, but there will be no future upgrading. Just not in my budget. I just never made enough money in my life to save much. But I have had more adventures than the average person, so I wouldn't change much. And I have learned to live on less than most people. My fanciest toy is a canoe with a 2.5 HP motor. And my guitar. But I have also found my best vacations have been sitting in a campground in Colorado, doing a little fishing, and maybe visit a little town for dinner and meeting people, instead of living it up somewhere like Florida. Simple lifestyle fits me, and my budget. There won't be many $30+ per night campgrounds in my travels.
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