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Old 07-24-2016, 03:21 PM   #71
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Trying to determine that happy middle ground

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Folks have been great about posting the various pros and cons here. Its ultimately all about what works for you, including questions of tow vehicle and wallet capacities as each can have a significant bearing on your decision here. Theres also a question of timing and changing needs. You might find like many that your third RV is really the perfect one for you. Maybe the one that will work with kids is different from what you will want later on.
Mike thanks for the information on your experience with the Casita. I've been researching those too

And that's the challenging part, that middle ground (with a FG trailer) that will work now and down the road. I like the open design of the front couch (bunk beds). Traveling with my wife and the kids, it's a destination with nice amenities - so the CG facilities meet our needs.

With all the great information on this forum and responses in this thread, I've determined that an on board toilet may be a nice convenience. So at this point in time (research thus far) the Scamp 16 Standard with side wet bath and front couch (bunk beds) looks good. I would order it with just the toilet, as that meets current needs, and I believe my needs down the road - with extended solo trips.

Though it could change. My wife is not a big camping fan, so she is OK with short trips with the kids, but expressed no interest in longer trips... until I started explaining my extended stay plans of National Parks and State Parks. Now she is expressing interest, and adding her list of "must haves" to the trailer research.

Still researching, but I think the on board toilet is a good option. And still keeps the trailer relatively simple, as the grey and black tanks seem straight forward to use and maintain.

A lot of good information on this forum. Good to read through and sort with my own tent camping experience - and attempt to estimate future camping set ups
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:15 PM   #72
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Thanks Dave. Mind you, I am not advocating any particular brand here. I am speaking more to our rapid evolution here from a simple 5x10 teardrop trailer with electric lights and a fan but no plumbing or other appliances.

If you are ordering the wet bath configuration, that means the shower is included, so I'm not clear if you are considering deleting that part. I'd guess (!) there's probably little cost involved and it might help resale value. Besides, the shower head-holder is a great place to hang the laundry bag.

Have you ever noticed in the RV ads that the trailer was apparently airlifted into a serene lakeside meadow with no other camper in sight and nary a bent blade of grass? Well, I don't want to shock anyone reading this forum, but it actually doesn't always work out quite exactly that way.

Locally, and from what I read nationally, it's getting very tough to schedule sites on weekends at many destinations. We tend to see no or very limited choices with utility hookups at our State Parks for several months out during the summer season, even for those sites with just electric power. When full, some private parks will at least accommodate you in an overflow area, but that also means no utilities.

So, for my part I have a growing awareness of how significant the propane part of the equation can be. (I'm not knocking solar, but that requires some capital investment. And, I'm not ready to add a generator to the "complications".) So, as you say, there's lots to think about.

Now, go order the trailer that your wife wants. Problem solved.
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:17 PM   #73
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Hi David & All,

It looks like David is zeroing in on a Scamp 16' floorplan that will work for him, so the following is just my 2 cents on this interesting subject.

We just got back from a three night trip to Dale Hollow Lake State Resort Park. Left Thursday and back today. We knew it was going to be a hot weekend and it was. Luckily, we had a full-hookup site that was 2/3s shaded, but about 200 yards from the nearest bathhouse, so quick trips to the bathroom were not practical and even walking to shower was not appealing. I used our Casita shower three times and Laura at least twice. LOVED being able to be out all day, very hot and sweaty, then to come into the cool Casita, take a shower, wipe it down in 2-3 minutes, then climb into bed. LOVELY!

Call me spoiled, but full-hookups and an onboard shower, SWEET!

BTW, we emptied the gray tank once prior to departing and did not have to empty the black tank until we departed and it was still only 2/3s full. Love that wet bath.

YMMV!

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Old 07-24-2016, 10:09 PM   #74
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We just got back from a three night trip to Dale Hollow Lake State Resort Park. Left Thursday and back today. We knew it was going to be a hot weekend and it was. Luckily, we had a full-hookup site that was 2/3s shaded, but about 200 yards from the nearest bathhouse, so quick trips to the bathroom were not practical and even walking to shower was not appealing. I used our Casita shower three times and Laura at least twice. LOVED being able to be out all day, very hot and sweaty, then to come into the cool Casita, take a shower, wipe it down in 2-3 minutes, then climb into bed. LOVELY!
And that has me thinking of the full wet bath (not just toilet)

My wife would definitely appreciate that amenity. Me too. As I am fairly active with biking and hiking when we go camping, and just camping in general - you get sweaty. I need (and want) that shower before bed at night.

Might be nice, to not hike to the showers
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So at this point in time (research thus far) the Scamp 16 Standard with side wet bath and front couch (bunk beds) looks good. I would order it with just the toilet, as that meets current needs, and I believe my needs down the road - with extended solo trips.
I had 9 wonderful years with the 16' side bath and it was a great layout. Traveled a number of times with children and the front bunks work out well. The counter space in the kitchen can not be bet... lots of larger trailers do not have as much. Having the bath to the side allows for the large front window providing lots of light and makes the trailer feel bigger. Order all the extra cabinets (front overheads for example) you can for storing all the kids stuff ;-)

If I was in your shoes and not sure about what I needed and was going to get the toilet option I would spend the bit extra and get the shower option. If nothing more than for resale. Many people moving up to a 16' from a 13' do so for the shower.

As others have pointed out some campground showers are not the nicest and some of the nicest camping spots have no showers.
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Scamp 16 Standard with side wet bath

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I had 9 wonderful years with the 16' side bath and it was a great layout. Traveled a number of times with children and the front bunks work out well. The counter space in the kitchen can not be bet... lots of larger trailers do not have as much. Having the bath to the side allows for the large front window providing lots of light and makes the trailer feel bigger. Order all the extra cabinets (front overheads for example) you can for storing all the kids stuff ;-)
Thanks for this information Carol. I'm really interested in the 16' Scamp Standard, with the side wet bath. Nice layout and nice amenities, a FG camper that I think will work with our family and down the road if I solo - extended stays.

Still researching, and thanks to all for the helpful experiences and recommendations
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The biggest limitation of the side bath is size. The shower pan sits on top of the raised floor, so headroom is limited, and the horizontal dimensions are cramped as well. At least I think they no longer install a sink in new builds, so that helps a little. But now they don't install a window, either.

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It's still my favorite 16' layout, and the only one with a bathroom and beds for four. I like the extra galley space, too. Living with a really small bathroom is the price. I'm not actively searching, but if the right one showed up, I could be tempted...
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The biggest limitation of the side bath is size. The shower pan sits on top of the raised floor, so headroom is limited, and the horizontal dimensions are cramped as well.

It's still my favorite 16' layout, and the only one with a bathroom and beds for four. I like the extra galley space, too.
Jon, thanks for the photo, as (I'm sure purposely) the side wet bath shots from Scamp are odd angles and none from the top down. I suspected it was small. I'm 5'4" and the rest of the family shorter. So the height would not be a problem.

However, we are hardy stocky Hobbit folk so I am concerned about the width. That's why we like the CG showers, the width afforded.

I'm back and forth between the straight forward (keep it simple) set up of the Scamp 13 Standard (with couch-bunk beds) and the Scamp 16 with side wet bath. Though they are both different with amenities, I believe both would work for our family, and on down the road with me and solo trips.

Thanks again for the photo, helps me visualize the width concern
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Jon, thanks for the photo, as (I'm sure purposely) the side wet bath shots from Scamp are odd angles and none from the top down. I suspected it was small. I'm 5'4" and the rest of the family shorter. So the height would not be a problem.
However, we are hardy stocky Hobbit folk so I am concerned about the width. That's why we like the CG showers, the width afforded.
Dave, call Scamp for a referral of that layout in your area so you can see one in person and "size" it up .
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We just got back from a three night trip to Dale Hollow Lake State Resort Park. Left Thursday and back today. We knew it was going to be a hot weekend and it was. Luckily, we had a full-hookup site that was 2/3s shaded, but about 200 yards from the nearest bathhouse, so quick trips to the bathroom were not practical and even walking to shower was not appealing. I used our Casita shower three times and Laura at least twice. LOVED being able to be out all day, very hot and sweaty, then to come into the cool Casita, take a shower, wipe it down in 2-3 minutes, then climb into bed. LOVELY!
So here I am prattling on and on about features while Dean gets to the real point, benefits! Good job Dean!
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Don't get sticker shock with the shower option. It includes water heater, grey water tank, shower pan, surround and shower drain pump and filter. You can't buy the parts for what they ask for the option. When selling a Scamp the shower question is one of the first questions you get.
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A few years ago you could get the Scamp 16 shower without the sink, which gives you more room. A couple months ago there was a fellow in NJ selling one, which I was tempted to buy—though as it is, I'm glad we ended up finding a Casita 17 with the front bath. It's a little more roomy, but just a little.

I'd suggest the Casita, but they don't offer a bunk option that would hold a couple of kids. ParkLiner does, though. They're down in your neck o' the woods, too. See here:

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I'd suggest the Casita, but they don't offer a bunk option that would hold a couple of kids...
Actually they do, in a couple of ways. A Casita standard, not deluxe, has a sofa/bunk set-up in place of the front bathroom. For those who want bunks AND a bathroom, Spirit deluxe models are available with a sofa/bunk in place of the side dinette.
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Actually they do, in a couple of ways. A Casita standard, not deluxe, has a sofa/bunk set-up in place of the front bathroom. For those who want bunks AND a bathroom, Spirit deluxe models are available with a sofa/bunk in place of the side dinette.
I stand corrected. But my impression is that the ParkLiner enables you to convert from dinette to bunks to sofa and back. Says ParkLiner:

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Does the Spirit Deluxe? Don't see any pics of the bunk option on the Casita website.

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