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Old 03-31-2008, 12:23 AM   #1
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I thought this site was long gone, but found it again the other day. It's intended as advice for folks retiring to Florida from Up North, but a lot is good for FTs.

http://www.jones-foster.com/Florida%20Domicile.htm
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:11 AM   #2
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Thanx, Pete, for this link. We have retained residency, voter registration, etc. in the state we lived in for more than 20 years, so the changes discussed don't apply, but these are all interesting points to ponder if we ever do want to be Texans, SoDakers or Floridians. Regards, L 'n D
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:48 PM   #3
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What about establishing domicile in New Mexico?
Most people disregaurd New Mexico because of state income tax.
That isn't a problem for me, but, finding pros and cons on
New Mexico is, (except for state income tax).
I have been in New Mexico for a couple of months and like it
here. Am thinking truck insurance and vehicle fees might be
cheaper here, but, not sure.

The sunrises and sunsets here still take my breathe away.

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I thought this site was long gone, but found it again the other day. It's intended as advice for folks retiring to Florida from Up North, but a lot is good for FTs.

http://www.jones-foster.com/Florida%20Domicile.htm
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:18 PM   #4
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Remember that as a FullTimer, you pick the state that's most advantageous to you, usually financially, not where you would like to spend time. So that usually starts with state income tax and then veers off into other concerns, ending with estate tax...

For example, you might want to domicile in TX but hang around NM to enjoy the sunsets

What I would do, were I you, is research the forums here, RV.NET, Escapees, and anywhere else you can find, looking for factors to research, such as:

Actual tax rates
Car ins
Med ins
Sales tax (when changing vehicle/trailer)
Estate problems
Residency requirements
DL renewals
Vehicle inspection
Vehicle registration
Physical address problems
Personal property tax

Sometimes, a particular state has good deals for residents (NM used to sell an annual camping pass at state parks to residents; one could camp for a long time dirt cheap).

What you also have to do is find out how much of the above has to be done in person vs by mail. Like, is a smog inspection required to renew registration? Is a new DL photo needed every X years?
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Old 04-01-2008, 04:15 PM   #5
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Doesn't Escapees have a full-timer park with a buy in deal located in NM?
Seems like someone said not long ago they had some space still available to sell as well.
Maybe someone can jump in here and give you more info on that option.
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:11 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies.
Have done several searches. Haven't found much.
Seems most people on the forums only consider states
without state income tax.
Taxes are complicated. Looking at
http://www.retirementliving.com/RLstate3.html#TEXAS
Sales tax, New Mexico about 7%; Texas about 8%
New Mexico 2 cents less gasoline tax,
Other taxes vary, state inspection only in the county
where Albuquerque is, based on population of the county.

Couple of auto insurance sites give state average cost of
insurance per insured person.
Doesn't tell you if the "average person" is buying full
coverage for a rolls, or if they have state minimum
liability only.

Will keep doing research, for me New Mexico residency
MIGHT be a good deal.

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Also, try:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=...amp;btnG=Search

http://www.myprimeyears.com/rv/yeaw_homebase1.htm
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:52 PM   #9
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South Dakota is chosen for several reasons.
<blockquote>3% excise tax on vehicles
No state income tax
Americas mailbox
low sales tax
low price to tag vehicles compared to lots of states
Many mail fowarding companies that will help you with titles and plates and other matters
vehicle registration costs and low vehicle insurance costs
no state vehicle inspections

Drivers license: John just got his SD DL and wrote, We just got our drivers licenses. When you go in you fill out a paper with your address and other info. Handed it in with my Ohio license and was not asked for anything else. Took about 2 mins. to type in info then took my picture. Whole thing was over in less than 10 mins. Could not believe how easy it was.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:37 PM   #10
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What about establishing domicile in New Mexico?
Most people disregaurd New Mexico because of state income tax.
That isn't a problem for me, but, finding pros and cons on
New Mexico is, (except for state income tax).
I have been in New Mexico for a couple of months and like it
here. Am thinking truck insurance and vehicle fees might be
cheaper here, but, not sure.

The sunrises and sunsets here still take my breathe away.

DanM
We don't need no more stinkin' Texans.

Seriously, we moved here from Phoenix in 2003 after my wife retired (I had quit working much earlier).

Property taxes, vehicle registration and insurance all cost less than in Phoenix. Sales tax is not much lower, but food and medicine is exempt. For example, we were paying about $500 per year property tax, now we pay less than $100 for the same valuation. Of course, we don't have all the "services" we had in Phoenix.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #11
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I'm more than a little surprised that Oregon isn't on a favored list.

It's true they have an income tax, but the way it is calculated for retirees makes it an almost zero expense for me, based on the date on which I retired.

Other benefits include vehicle license fees of about $10 a year, no sales tax, state park pass incentives for residents, etc. And I think one would be hard pressed to find a nicer summer destination.

I've almost talked myself into relocating to Oregon myself, more than once.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:16 PM   #12
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Other benefits include vehicle license fees of about $10 a year, no sales tax, state park pass incentives for residents, etc. And I think one would be hard pressed to find a nicer summer destination.

I've almost talked myself into relocating to Oregon myself, more than once.
It is nice, but property taxes are very high. So as long as you don't care to own property it might be okay. However, the big one....Oregon will tax your retirement, because it's INCOME. There are some ways around some of that.

There aren't any incentives for residents as far as lower fees to use state parks.

Tow Vehicle license fees run $55 for two years (+ DEQ certificate, if needed.. which I think is $12)

Trailer registration is by the foot, for two years:
6 - 10 feet $81.00
11 feet 87.75
12 feet 94.50
13 feet 101.25
14 feet 108.00
15 feet 114.75
16 feet 121.50
17 feet 128.25
18 feet 135.00
19 feet 141.75
20 feet 148.50

And on, and on, and on.
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Got a question guys...

If you are a Fulltimer, by definition you are traveling somewhere. I like both New Mexico & Oregon, but...

How would you handle your Mail in the state you are recommending as your Domicile?
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Trailer registration is by the foot, for two years:
6 - 10 feet $81.00
11 feet 87.75
12 feet 94.50
13 feet 101.25
14 feet 108.00
15 feet 114.75
16 feet 121.50
17 feet 128.25
18 feet 135.00
19 feet 141.75
20 feet 148.50

And on, and on, and on.
OUCH! What would a 25’ cost?
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