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Old 11-06-2007, 03:29 PM   #1
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I think we touched slightly on this topic, but here's the latest on ABCNEWS:
Full-Time RVers Are Blocked From Voting
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:50 PM   #2
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But the states don't mind taking the license fees and personal property taxes. Governments are critters that occasionally need a smack on the snout.
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This is VERY disturbing! As full-time RV'ers we maintain our voter registration in Nevada. We own property in two counties in that state (AND pay property taxes annually). When we stop traveling we will resume permanent residence there. We concur with one person quoted in the ABC article - Dave is a veteran and certainly expects his contribution to protect our right to vote! We gotta fight for this one! L 'n D
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This is VERY disturbing! As full-time RV'ers we maintain our voter registration in Nevada. We own property in two counties in that state (AND pay property taxes annually). When we stop traveling we will resume permanent residence there. We concur with one person quoted in the ABC article - Dave is a veteran and certainly expects his contribution to protect our right to vote! We gotta fight for this one! L 'n D
By being property owners in a given state, you'll have a much easier time proving voting rights status than those individuals who don't own dirt. I think this article and the problem has more to do with people who are permanently transient. I was planning on being one of those for at least five years... now may have to rethink that portion of my retirement. (I wonder if paying storage fees for posessions would count????)
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:27 AM   #5
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I think I was reading somewhere in the Oregon laws that those with only mailing addresses could use a county courthouse as an address when they vote.

This also applies to homeless folks.

Not sure where I read it, but it was very recently. DMV site, maybe?
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:53 AM   #6
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Oregon Law:
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247.038 Registration of homeless persons.
(1) A qualified person who is homeless shall not be denied the opportunity to register to vote.
(2) For purposes of this chapter:
(a) The residence address of a homeless person shall be any place within the county describing the physical location of the person; and
( The mailing address of a homeless person may be the office of the county clerk. [1993 c.493 §104]
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Yep... thats it.

Seems goofy a homeless person can vote (And they should.. if they are US citizens.. address or lack thereof should have nothing to do with it) but they deny someone who lives on wheels?

I suspect a superior court case could clear that up.
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Remember, the article I referred folks to was about Tennessee, what I just quoted was Oregon law. Every state has different rules/regulations/laws/tax bases/etc., etc., etc.
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I believe that is why many Escapee members establish their Domicile in Livingston, Texas. Then they vote absentee. I’m told the Escapee members refrain from voting on local issues.
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Having worked the polls in Florida in past years we have to attend training meetings from time to time and they claim to have documented proof of some of the snowbirds who vote in their home state then try to vote when they get to Florida as well. I think until they resolve that issue those laws will become more common among states. Hmmm maybe its not the electronic ballots after all.
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This issue can be a cause of concern for the locals. Livingston, Texas is a town of about 6,000 with perhaps 4,000 voters. I'm sure Escapee members that are registered to vote there far outnumber the locals. Sounds like a recipe for friction.

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This issue can be a cause of concern for the locals. Livingston, Texas is a town of about 6,000 with perhaps 4,000 voters. I'm sure Escapee members that are registered to vote there far outnumber the locals. Sounds like a recipe for friction.

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Like I said, “I’m told the Escapee members refrain from voting on local issues.” Only the ones that live there full time vote on local issues.
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Having worked the polls in Florida in past years we have to attend training meetings from time to time and they claim to have documented proof of some of the snowbirds who vote in their home state then try to vote when they get to Florida as well. I think until they resolve that issue those laws will become more common among states. Hmmm maybe its not the electronic ballots after all.
Just because some folks break the law (and they are if they vote in two places) doesn't mean that all folks will break the law, and the folks who are doing it likely have property in both states, rather than no property in any state. There's not much technical difficulty in sharing voter registration data bases between states if that's perceived to be a major problem. Some states do that now for DL's and tax purposes (CA-OR-WA).

Florida law, last I looked, allows persons without a physical address to use the county courthouse as a domicile address but the voter MUST have a mailing address and that can't be the courthouse. When I was a FullTimer and FL resident, my driver's license in the computer data base reflected both my mail service address and the county courthouse. Florida law also allowed using a friend's address as a residence for driver's license/vehicle registration.

I did not vote in local elections as a matter of personal ethics.
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But both voting and not voting on local issues can have a big impact on local politics.

On one side of the coin, RVers who vote on local issues that they have no stake in may take very different positions on those issues from the people who actually live in the community. What interest does an RVer who lives on the road somewhere "out there" have in passing a tax issue that supports a school or library bond?

Yet not voting can be bad, too. Some "supermajority" laws require both that tax-raising measures get a certain percentage (like 55-66%) of the vote and that a minimum percentage of registered voters vote. So if RVers don't vote, they could draw the participation numbers down and potentially torpedo a local measure that would otherwise have passed that way, too.

I'd never advocate that RVers not be allowed to vote for national representatives, senators, or president. RVers need a voice in their national government, but I'm much less sure about whether they should have a voice in local or state-wide issues or choosing state lawmakers unless they spend enough time there that they really do have a stake in their "state of residence."

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