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Old 02-02-2009, 09:02 PM   #15
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Be careful -- We are drifting from How to Carry Firearms to Should We Carry Firearms, the contentious part that gets us in trouble.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:50 PM   #16
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Pamela,

I carry a handgun, always. It's loaded, won't do any good unloaded. It's stored in the trailer. It's been across the country and back several times. I did not take it on my Alaska trip as I had to go through Canada.

I don't worry about having it since I don't look for trouble and therefore can't see any reason why I'd be stopped and the trailer searched. If for some reason the occasion would occur, I think I'd pleaded ignorance and let them have it. Maybe say something like "Gosh, I was sure I left it home" and maybe bat my big brown eyes.

I'm contemplating full timing and have wondered about my handgun only because while fulltiming I might want to cross the border into Canada or go to Alaska again. I think someone mentioned leaving their weapon at the border and picking it back up on their return. The problem being that you have to cross both ways at the same border crossing. So while I like the handgun better than a shotgun I might have to reconsider if having a shotgun allows me to take it into Canada. Maybe some research is needed.


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-- In Mexico, you will do jail time under unpleasant circumstances
-- It's their border and they can manage it as they choose.
A U.S.Marine was jailed in Mexico for inadvertently crossing the border with guns.

It took 2 U.S. Congressmen and a General to get him released.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:49 PM   #18
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No problem, I don't plan on going to Mexico anytime soon or even later.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:00 AM   #19
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Best laid plans and all that -- There have been numerous instances in the El Paso area where is easy for someone passing through (like the Marine) to take a wrong turn and wind up in the border crossing lane with no chance to turn around -- The Marine didn't have any intentions of going to Mexico.

Once upon a time, one could check weapons at the border going into Canada, but those days are long gone -- When you present the weapons, they will be confiscated unless you can get the appropriate firearms permits (which are not available for aliens for handguns and other restricted weapons).
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:13 PM   #20
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My hands are lethal weapons. I carry them with me everywhere I go and very rarely hide them. Customs has never confiscated them in Canada or Mexico. My hands move freely across state lines.....

I am known as "The Gringo."
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:37 PM   #22
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Pamela,

I carry a handgun, always. It's loaded, won't do any good unloaded. It's stored in the trailer. It's been across the country and back several times. I did not take it on my Alaska trip as I had to go through Canada.

I don't worry about having it since I don't look for trouble and therefore can't see any reason why I'd be stopped and the trailer searched. If for some reason the occasion would occur, I think I'd pleaded ignorance and let them have it. Maybe say something like "Gosh, I was sure I left it home" and maybe bat my big brown eyes.

I'm contemplating full timing and have wondered about my handgun only because while fulltiming I might want to cross the border into Canada or go to Alaska again. I think someone mentioned leaving their weapon at the border and picking it back up on their return. The problem being that you have to cross both ways at the same border crossing. So while I like the handgun better than a shotgun I might have to reconsider if having a shotgun allows me to take it into Canada. Maybe some research is needed.
Here is a possible, yet illegal way of doing it with hand gun:If you are going through Canada to Alaska, an option is to send it general delivery, to yourself, to the closest US post office after the Canadian border and before you cross into Canada. But it should be broken down and mailed in at least two separate packages with some other items you might need there, like canned goods or such. You ask for your two parcels when you get to that post office. Put on the parcels your likely ETA. The post offices hold them for about 30 days. Solo backpackers, I have heard, do this when there is no other solution.

Legally, it should be sent by someplace like a gun store which has an FFL to another in Alaska having one too, paying a fee for each transaction. What a pain it has all become!
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I am known as "The Gringo."
I saved that "Gringo" gif LOL I Like it
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Don't even think about mailing it illegally because the BATF will make your life a living hell when you are caught.
You could wind up in Gitmo as a Terab Airest for the rest of your life not to mention the government seizing everything you own.

I sell guns at a gun store and the way to move it is to ship from one FFL Licensed dealer to another FFL Licensed dealer.
After all, if having a handgun with you is so important doing it within the law is that important also.

I think more than enough has been said concernint this issue and this thread should be closed.

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Old 02-04-2009, 09:36 AM   #25
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My hands are lethal weapons. I carry them with me everywhere I go and very rarely hide them. Customs has never confiscated them in Canada or Mexico. My hands move freely across state lines.....

I am known as "The Gringo."
Do I recall seeing you in "Once Upon a Time in Mexico" with Antonio Banderas?

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I don't want to be a renegade or anything, but I plan on keeping mine hidden but "handy". My grandfather was a police officer and safety comes first, I will be alone on the road full time. The way I see it, if you don't do anything (including crossing the border to Canada) to give Law Enforcement a reason to search (which is most definitely my plan), then I won't have a problem. I am not advocating for anyone else to take my advice and I have the book on the laws already (haven't read it yet, haven't hit the road yet either), but IMO, I would rather be safe and responsible than unsafe. I did, about 15 yrs ago, bring the same firearm from VA to CA under my seat and had no problems. Once again, I will be alone, so I am most worried about my safety. I will check out the laws and comply as much as possible, without surrendering my firearm at any time. This is the risk I am willing to take, NOT advocating in any way!! I hope all have save journeys and I am looking forward to being on the road with you all within a very short time as I officially retired Friday, waiting on my Pension Funds to come through to join you all. Happy and safe traveling and towing!!
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Note to Monica and Pamela concerning search and seizure laws:

Monica, you are mostly right that you won't be searched without cause. Border crossings are the one huge exception. I crossed the Canadian border many times while living in Alaska. Usually took a few seconds to pass the guard station. When my wife and I were crossing from Montana into Canada with a new Casita in '04, we had a different experience. We were told to park the truck and trailer in a large warehouse-like building and go to a waiting room. We were there over two hours while two agents went through the truck and trailer. There were a few other people who looked as ordinary as us getting the same experience. We were never told what the issue was that day, or if it was just totally random. We had no contraband or firearms of any kind on that trip. Like Pete, I have crossed the border with long guns. There is a paperwork excercise and fee to pay. But don't ever go to a border crossing with a handgun and assume they won't find it.

Traveling with a firearm in the truck or the trailer is up to you, subject to state and local law. In many states, there are laws that firearms must be unloaded and in an area inaccessible to the driver. The trailer would qualify under this scenario. Keep in mind how much a trailer bounces around and protect the item accordingly. There are different levels of constitutional protection concerning vehicles and homes. When your trailer is parked for the night it is your home. When it is rolling down the highway it's a vehicle. Searching your home requires a much higher level of exigent circumstances, usually requiring a warrant. If you stay legal, you don't have to worry about all these kinds of details.

Hey, BIG CONGRATS on making it to retirement! Have fun out there.

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Best laid plans and all that -- unless you can get the appropriate firearms permits (which are not available for aliens for handguns and other restricted weapons).
Peteo you know the customs procedure at the border for taking a shotgun into Canada? How much paperwork is involved, how much fee to be paid?

Some years ago I flew up to Yellowknife in the NWT with a rifle as checked luggage and I don't recall much of a hassle at all and no fee when I went through Canadian customs in Edmonton. I suspect things have changed now. Of course, that was 15 years ago, before the Canadians passed the legislation to severely limit handgun ownership for their citizens, and prohibit it completely for the casual tourists passing through.
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