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Old 03-03-2011, 10:08 PM   #43
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If I bring a gun on a camping trip I am not supposed to stop at 99% of military installations. That said, I think a military campground is about as safe as you can get. It's the traveling between them that presents a problem. Not all my camping trips include a stop at a military installation.

My goal is for nobody to know if I have a gun until the smoke clears. I have no doubt I have the will to pull the trigger.

Travel safe and practice situation awareness.
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Idle curiosity department question for anybody listening:

What's the legal definition of "concealed carry?" (any state...)
Would it exempt a plainly visible pistol in a holster?

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Old 05-11-2011, 04:10 AM   #45
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Idle curiosity department question for anybody listening:

What's the legal definition of "concealed carry?" (any state...)
Would it exempt a plainly visible pistol in a holster?

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Whether or not a firearm is considered concealed or not in a particular incident is often left to the judgement of the police officer involved. Therein lies the reason that I went to the trouble to obtain a concealed carry license. Now I am covered in any instance except in the states that do not have reciprical recognition.

Always be sure that you are informed of the laws in your locality. Good information on this can be found on the allstays website.

Never keep a gun handy if you are not prepared to use it and understand the legal paramaters involved as to when it's use is considered justified. However the old saw " It's better to be tried by twelve than burried by six. " is always a consideration. Be safe.
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Idle curiosity department question for anybody listening:

What's the legal definition of "concealed carry?" (any state...)
Would it exempt a plainly visible pistol in a holster?

Francesca

In Minnesota we do not have "Concealed Carry" we have "Permit to Carry". So plainly visible is not an exemption. I believe this varies by state.
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Idle curiosity department question for anybody listening:

What's the legal definition of "concealed carry?" (any state...)
Would it exempt a plainly visible pistol in a holster?

Francesca
The definition is different in every State and even in different cities in the same State.

General rule of thumb: Concealed carry means a non gun person has no clue. No part of the gun exposed or outlined (printing). Some States allow for incidental exposure, some don't.

Here are some good sites to start your personal research on. Then move on to the sites for the States you are interested in.
Concealed Carry - Reciprocity Maps - Concealed Weapons Permit Info
Handgunlaw.us
Pack-N-Go Carry Concealed Trip Planner

You do not want to rely on information from a non-government web site when a mistake can be a felony. Personally check the State web site for the Laws of any States you intend to take your gun to.
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Thanks, all-

I've wondered about that since a friend of mine refers to his handgun permit as a "concealed carry" permit.

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Here is a good book to have on the subject:
Traveler's guide to the firearm laws of the fifty states
Gunlaws for the 50 States
$13.95 for 1 copy
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don't buy a 'gun laws' book ...

don't buy a book to research gun laws, the laws change almost daily ! ...

here's a free website that attempts to stay current:

Concealed Carry - Reciprocity Maps - Concealed Weapons Permit Info

don't bother to ask a cop about the laws either, as most don't know, themselves ... (they're cops, not attorneys) ...

one thing you can be sure of, GUN LAWS are different in most every state ... I have concealed-gun permits (CCW) in 3 different states, recognized by about 31 states, at this time (like I said, the laws are changing constantly) ... most of these states do NOT allow 'open carry' ... even though I have a concealed permit, I would be arrested if seen carrying my weapon in plain view


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the definition is different in every state and even in different cities in the same state.

General rule of thumb: Concealed carry means a non gun person has no clue. No part of the gun exposed or outlined (printing). Some states allow for incidental exposure, some don't.

Here are some good sites to start your personal research on. Then move on to the sites for the states you are interested in.
concealed carry - reciprocity maps - concealed weapons permit info
handgunlaw.us
pack-n-go carry concealed trip planner

you do not want to rely on information from a non-government web site when a mistake can be a felony. Personally check the state web site for the laws of any states you intend to take your gun to.
very good advice !
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Jimmy said: "don't buy a book to research gun laws, the laws change almost daily ! ...

The book I referenced in my post recommends the same thing Jimmy said. The book is written by an Attorney and he wants you to be absolutely sure you understand the various State laws B 4 you carry.
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The most important thing on this thread is Monica RETIRED and is awaiting Pension Funds! WOO HOO


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Well, that was awhile ago...LOL. My funds came in and I have been on the road for two and a half years now, full time. I have traveled through MANY states, my firearm has never been noticed. Other than that, I am LOVING IT! That's all for now folks!
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speaking of firearms, how does one travel to Alaska, thru Canada, with a firearm? Anyone know?
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speaking of firearms, how does one travel to Alaska, thru Canada, with a firearm? Anyone know?
the legal way to get thru Canada to Alaska with your firearm, is to visit your local gun dealer - the firearm will be shipped to an Alaskan gun dealer of your choice, that's what USA law requires - do some 'Yellow Pages' searching, if need be, to find a gun dealer on your route ... likely your local gun dealer has done it before, or knows how to find dealers at the destination ... DO NOT trifle with Canadian gun laws, they WILL lock you up, and confiscate your property (we had a semitruck seized and held for months, over a firearm situation - the driver asked permission at the Port of Entry, to enter Canada with it - he was then arrested)
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I don't want to be a renegade or anything, but I plan on keeping mine hidden but "handy". My grandfather was a police officer and safety comes first, I will be alone on the road full time. The way I see it, if you don't do anything (including crossing the border to Canada) to give Law Enforcement a reason to search (which is most definately my plan), then I won't have a problem. I am not advocating for anyone else to take my advice and I have the book on the laws already (haven't read it yet, haven't hit the road yet either), but IMO, I would rather be safe and responsible than unsafe. I did, about 15 yrs ago, bring the same firearm from VA to CA under my seat and had no problems. Once again, I will be alone, so I am most worried about my safety. I will check out the laws and comply as much as possible, without surrendering my firearm at any time. This is the risk I am willing to take, NOT advocating in any way!! I hope all have save journeys and I am looking forward to being on the road with you all within a very short time as I officially retired Friday, waiting on my Pension Funds to come through to join you all. Happy and safe traveling and towing!!
My uncle once tried crossing into Canada with a firearm. A revolver I think. He was stopped at the border and turned around. He left it with a friend and tried crossing again some days later at a different checkpoint.

They tore his car apart, removing everything. Removed speakers, checked his engine, and looked everywhere for that revolver, convinced he still had it.

I think most border patrol people themselves would naturally want to keep a firearm with them, and so expect people to bring one in.

The lesson here is that if you tell them once, they will assume you have one the next time, and you will be on the hit list for every time you cross into Canada.

So I see three options. 1) Hiding a cheap firearm for personal protection, that is large enough to stop a bear, or 2) Applying for the five year permit which is $60, and being careful to comply with all laws. or 3) Competing in target competition while traveling to Canada.

In either case, I would only bring in inexpensive weapon, like a cheap pump shotgun, and no more than 200 rounds of ammunition for that firearm only. More if you are competing in target competition. Or if competing, bringing obviously target guns only.

My choice would be to comply with all laws. While I would not enjoy the border patrol stripping my car down, I would much rather comply with all laws and avoid being labeled as someone who is trying to be sneaky.

Finally, I travel to Canada frequently. The more often you travel there, the less difficulty it will be for you to cross in either direction. Follow the rules. Use common sense.

So suggestions.

When you stop at customs take off your sunglasses. Stop the car, and remove the keys, and be prepared to immediately comply if they ask for you to remove your keys. Sunglasses make it seem like you want to avoid being recognized--they will take dozens of pictures of you when you cross, and leaving the car running might make them think you are about to try to run. Be polite. Some people get belligerent and these get arrested. If you are retired military, had over your Military ID card. I provide my passport, retired military ID, Merchant Marine Document, and Pet's vaccination papers every time I cross, even though I have been told I do not have to provide all this. I simply state force of habit.

They will always ask you where you are going and staying. Have an answer ready or even written out for them. If you are carrying firearms, it should show the route you are taking and if competing, it should be fairly direct.

You are not trying to hide anything, which will cause them to be suspicious of you.

While I completely understand Monica's suggestion to hide the fact that firearms are present in the vehicle, as I would not want any of my firearms confiscated. I would much less want to be labeled a troublemaker, or show disrespect for the laws of Canada.



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