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Old 02-25-2013, 08:38 AM   #71
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We do carry bear spray and do not normally carry a gun and certainly never in Canada.

It is legal to transport a gun in your vehicle thru any state while going from one place to another, Federal law.

It appears, maybe because of demographics, that crime is inversely proportional to the right to carry a gun with those states with the toughest gun laws having the highest gun murder rates.
I do not wish to reopen this diatribe but check the concealed weapon website for reciprocity, some states will not recognize your permit and you would be subject to arrest.
Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps - USA Carry
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When he said he can transport through all states I think he met to do it in a way that is safe such as unloaded and in a case locked in the trunk and no ammo with it.

Purchase "The Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States", take it with you and be safe. Gunlaws for the 50 States
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Jim,

My statement had nothing to do with reciprocity.

Federal law allows taking a gun thru any two locations in the USA. In this process the duration of stops is limited, ie. like overnight but not for a week.

I'm sure in the trunk and unloaded is part of it all.
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Point of order!

Isn't this about where someone should start up with "The Castle Doctrine", thus kickin' things up a notch or two?

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This is exactly why I'm scared to go to Canada. Their crime rate must be, what, ten times the US?
Hey! You'd better watch it, we have learned to have deadly aim with snowballs, and we aren't afraid to use them.



I have spent a few thousand nights camping in bear country, most of that in the backcountry. I have seen many grizzly and black bears, some from a distance, and some from quite close. Never once did I even consider a firearm, just act with common sense and treat the bear with respect, and have never had an issue.

Campers too, having spent many a night around them, I have never felt the slightest need to have a firearm around them. In fact, I would bet there are WAY more people who camp with RV's that are more frightened knowing someone around them in another RV may have a firearm, then are afraid of being a victim of crime.

I do own a few rifles and guns, and used to be an avid hunter, but have not hunted in quite a few years now. I do still take them out to our land for target shooting, but would never consider carrying one for any other reason. I tend to err on the side of trusting folks, it seems to set up a better relationship that way.
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It is not that I am afraid of guns. I don't hunt, but I support the idea. Eating meat means taking a life, and accepting that is the responsibility of anyone, like myself, who eats meat. I think that hunting brings this reality that much more into focus.
But carrying a gun with the intent to use it against another person is beyond me. Oh I know that there are those who will defend their "Right" to posses firearms and have a complete philosophy of why this is necessary and in fact it is their responsibility. I don't buy it. Having lived in Canada most of my life, I am unfamiliar with the comfort experienced by those who can not leave their guns behind. From my perspective, they seem to live in fear. Fear that is pumped out every day by the news media, who distill everything that happens in life to find the most horrific stories to tell us. Why, to convince us that we are under threat every second of our lives. So the natural response is to arm ourselves. We want guns to be easily available to us. Of course that also makes them easily available to the bad guys. The line I hear is, "when guns are illegal, then only criminals with have them." Well, it seems to me that when guns are easily available, all the criminals have them. The people who carry guns to protect them selves seem to picture some kind of shoot out where the bad guys have a gun and the good guys defend the homestead with their guns. When I suspect that gun violence frequently does not allow the good guy the chance to access their gun. Someone pulls a gun and shoots. No time to react. So having a gun may not make you much safer, but the bad guy sure likes that he lives in a sea of available fire arms.
The Idea that criminals flock to jurisdictions where guns are not available, so they have the advantage, is just silly. Yah, I know some bad guys have guns in Canada, but we are not all hiding in our basements while the bad guys ride around town shooting into the air and terrorizing the population. Mostly, I just assume that the people I meet aren't carrying a gun, which I find comforting. What I do fear is going to the States, where I assume the people I meet are carrying a gun, and that idea terrifies me. A hand gun is not so good for hunting, but is designed to kill a person, not the kind of tool I want.
When I was 13, I was kinda messed up. I decided to hitch hike from Espanola Ontario to Calgary. I think I was looking to meet a violent end. Instead what I found was a country of friendly and interesting people. But even more importantly I lost a good deal of fear that I did not even know that I had. I started to see those around me as people and not threats. Now this is not to say you will never meet bad people, they do exist. But they are very much in the minority. As a Canadian, it is nice to know that the odds of them having guns are much lower. Unlike the NRA, I don't believe that the answer to gun violence is more guns.
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Campers too, having spent many a night around them, I have never felt the slightest need to have a firearm around them. In fact, I would bet there are WAY more people who camp with RV's that are more frightened knowing someone around them in another RV may have a firearm, then are afraid of being a victim of crime.
That would be me for one Have spent lots of nights camping in bear, cougar and wolf country in tents and trailer and never had an occasion to be sorry I didnt have a gun with me. I did though last winter leave a camping spot in Arizona that I had planned to stay longer in after I watched a large number of fellow campers out doing target practise one day & noticed that every cactus for miles around had been damaged by bullets. It was a bit of an eye opener. Didn't feel real safe there knowing that apparently everyone and his dog had a gun of one type or another. Actually one of the least favorable memories of that trip and made me think a lot more about if in the future when I have more time if I would actually be comfortable doing the snow bird thing in the south.
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I have a concealed permit and almost always carry and avoid places where it is illegal to do so. Those places are easy targets for criminals and they know it. .
Well that policy would sure cut down on my bucket list and travel expenses to complete it. So outside the US I am guessing off the top of my head that pretty well only leaves one with Africa, China, Taiwan, and North Korea (probable not a complete list but cant come up with any other top touristy destinations off the top of my head right now) as places to visit. Not all that bad as some of the seven wonders of the world are within those counties. But I wouldn't expect to be able to take my own gun on the plane with me but one will find they shouldn't in such places have much trouble buying yourself one off the street once you get there. Unlike in Canada and most of Europe & Australia were your most likely going to need to make yourself friendly with a gang connection to obtain a concealable gun.
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Jim, What U don't understand is that the City Yanks that go 2 the wild (Yellowstone 4 example) will walk up as close as possible and get mauled to death by the bears and other wild animals. It happens every year in our Yank (USA) parks.
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Jim, What U don't understand is that the City Yanks that go 2 the wild (Yellowstone 4 example) will walk up as close as possible and get mauled to death by the bears and other wild animals. It happens every year in our Yank (USA) parks.
This one's for you, Darwin!

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Jim, What U don't understand is that the City Yanks that go 2 the wild (Yellowstone 4 example) will walk up as close as possible and get mauled to death by the bears and other wild animals. It happens every year in our Yank (USA) parks.
Yup it happen just a couple of days before I was in Yellowstone last. But the good news is the park staff realized just who the problem was and the bear lived on to tell the story to all its friends!
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Let's try and get the subject matter back to those of us that maybe full timers in our fiberglass rv's and the issue of firearms, thank you.
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This is exactly why I'm scared to go to Canada. Their crime rate must be, what, ten times the US?
I meant places like theaters, stores and the like in the more populated areas where most people live and work.

Crime is everywhere and no one is immune.

The only fear I had in Canada was the "premium" fuel.
I had a modified SVT Cobra that had issues with anything less than the best fuels.
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Worried about the murder rate? Come to NH, the Live Free or Die state. NH has the lowest murder rate of continental US states and lower than 8 Canadian Provinces.

I think NH's rate is an indicator of what the lack of big cities means, that most places RVers travel are like NH, void of violence and typically not to cities. As a result weapons seem not to be necessary for the fulltimer.



If you're looking for a really low rate consider Nfld or just about any of the maritime provinces.
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