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Old 08-25-2014, 01:23 AM   #1
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Looking to live in a 16 foot fiber glass trailer

i am contemplating living in a 16 foot trailer to move around the country and work/live . I am wondering what peoples thought are on this and any suggestion on the trailer. So far I'm looking at a scamp trailer used or something like it in the same class.
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:07 AM   #2
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We do not live full time in our Scamp 16 but do spend about 8 months a year in it and one year did spend 310 consecutive days in our Scamp. This is our 14th year of travel like this.

We have worked to make our Scamp fit our 'travel style' by adding a level of organization beyond the standard Scamp. You can see our Scamp if you're patient under Preparing a 1991 Scamp in the Modifications section.

Travel style is also key. I believe that long term travel, living in less than a 100 square feet, requires a different way of living and thinking compared to the every day life we previously experienced.
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Old 08-25-2014, 09:56 AM   #3
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One consideration is whether you will be staying in places with bathhouse facilities or not. Using a tiny wet bath on a full-time basis would get old pretty fast for me.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:44 AM   #4
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One consideration is whether you will be staying in places with bathhouse facilities or not. Using a tiny wet bath on a full-time basis would get old pretty fast for me.
^^This^^ Also something that popped into my mind was your tug. To me, the smaller the travel trailer the more consideration that must be given to your tow vehicle. I admit to cheating in this regard as I tow with a Ford F-150 extended cab. I can pile all sorts of crap in the truck, both in the cab and in the bed, so can get away with being much less "efficient" in my packing/storage/space utilization in the Scamp. Not that a small tug might not work for you, just saying all the stuff has to go somewhere, or be left behind.
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:03 AM   #5
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Tow Vehicle

We had a small tow vehicle for years, a 2004 Honda CRV with manual transmission. It easily carried all we needed while economically towing our trailers all over North America for 8 months a year.

This year we bought a larger tow vehicle, a 2014 Honda Odyssey expecting to own it for the next 10 years. So far it gets around the same overall mileage as the CRV, less towing more on the highway not towing.

Ginny decided we're getting older and since we keep vehicles a long time an automatic would be good for us in the coming years. As well on this year's trip to Newfoundland we met a couple from Manitoba who traveled in their minivan. Ginny took one look at the Odyssey and thought of those people and proclaimed it's bigger than the Scamp.

Now Ginny's a soccer mom ...without the kids.
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:03 AM   #6
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There are thousands of folks that live in less space than a 16 ft camper. Over the road truckers ,most have a 96 inch or less sleeper . The biggest sleeper I have ever been in was 156 inches and huge on the inside a 16 ft 196 inch sleeper would be a mansion.
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Ron, it is true that there are many people who sleep in smaller spaces but for many the transition can be hard. My daughter's mother in law tells me her makeup wouldn't fit in our trailer nor her closet of matched outfits. Transitioning to a small trailer requires changing your approach to life in many small ways. For us it's worked well but it won't or doesn't for everyone.
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I just added an awning and I carry a large screened tent, so if I feel the need, I can expand to about 300 sq ft of living area.
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Ginny took one look at the Odyssey and thought of those people and proclaimed it's bigger than the Scamp.

Perhaps... but not as tall! After many years of tenting, I've concluded there's something very luxurious about being able to stand upright while pulling on your pants!
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Old 08-25-2014, 01:42 PM   #10
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i am contemplating living in a 16 foot trailer to move around the country and work/live . I am wondering what peoples thought are on this and any suggestion on the trailer. So far I'm looking at a scamp trailer used or something like it in the same class.
Dear Michael,

Have you ever backed-up a trailer? Maybe you should try that, before getting any deeper into this. It's hard until you get it. Then it's merely annoying.

My 13' Patriot is just for fun, so, I can't help you with the full-timing question. That's more about you than the rig.

But I just put my whole system together in the last 3 months as a total newbie. It's working great.

My best advice to you is to read this entire site, going back a few years.

Then, make sure you also read Casita Travel Trailer Forum going back a few years. That forum is really well organized by category.

Start with plumbing. In my newbie experience, it's the biggest change from land lubbing. I knew I wanted a full bath. That, and protection from rain and thunder and lightning were the things I wanted, when changing from tents.

So, you have to figure out if you want to deal with the plumbing issues: Fresh water, grey water, black water and dump stations.

Go to your closest park and visit the dump station morning-noon-ish . Basically, check-out time. Sundays are good. But any day will work. Watch what happens at a dump station before you decide this is the life for you. I think it's fine, but that's only my opinion.

Honestly, everything else is "down hill" from there. She made a funny.

No, really, unless you're an electrician, you'll be paying an rv expert for that help.

Also, make double double sure you have the right tow vehicle. Go bigger and stronger than you have to. Many, many numbers to learn about there: towing capacity, tongue weight, gross vehicle weight. Very technical.

Think about whether or not you'll need room for any guests. You'll definitely need an installed LP furnace, a 3-way fridge and a 3-way hot water heater. Lots to learn, there.

Full-timers probably will require generators, too. Solar might work if you stay near full sun like in the south-west.

The brand name is the last and least of your questions. Go to a rally and see them all for yourself before you spend any money.

Which rig you buy is like what you eat for dinner, or what professional training you choose: It depends on your personal temperament and your goals. One brand vs the other isn't your starting place. Everyone will tell you theirs is the best.

In a large group of people, who do you think is the best person to rely on? If you didn't instantly say yourself, take this very, very slowly. You'll have to rely on yourself every step of the way.

But these forums are full of wonderful, informed advice. Just remember that it's your money and time that are being spent.

I think what we camper people like about it is that we have the total responsibility but we also get the last word and do things our own way.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:06 PM   #11
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Jon, the Odyssey is not as tall as our Scamp but we lived in a Casita 16 for the better part of a year and that's not tall enough for me to stand up in, a reason we bought the Scamp. In fairness, the Casita 17 is tall enough to stand up in but was too heavy for our economical Honda CRV.

Michael, personally the most important part for us is having a trailer to travel in, one can spend forever looking for the ideal, literally and never find it. The advice to attend a rally is a definite to do. You'll learn more in a day than any other way.

If you're in Southern NH, near the beach, feel free to visit us, Just PM me and I'll give you more detailed info.
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(clip)one can spend forever looking for the ideal, literally and never find it.(clip)
Amen, I bought the first Scamp I ever saw. I have since seen one other Scamp (a 13) and a 17' Casita. They do not exactly grow on trees around here. As it turned out the Scamp actually is almost ideal for us. And old and cheap enough I don't mind working on it to get it "just right".
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:40 PM   #13
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And old and cheap enough I don't mind working on it to get it "just right".

That's one of the biggest considerations: I can't really work on mine so I resigned myself to the fact that I would be paying an rv guy for renovations/maintenance/repairs.

So, Michael, it's really all about you, not the camper.
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:58 PM   #14
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MIchael, When reading this site it's a good idea to look understand who's giving the advice. Look at how long they've been members before giving their advice much credence. Then be skeptical.

Living in a small trailer is not as hard to do as many would have you believe. Norm and Ginny manage quite well in a 16' trailer. There was another couple here that managed 4 years in a 13' Scamp. Another single male managed 6 years before cancer got him in a 13' Scamp. Life style has to change a bit from living is a large anchored house, but not as much as many would have you believe. You haven't got much to lose, most, if not all, of the trailer cost can be recovered if find out it's not for you.

Many of us sort and change the stuff we carry around with us through out our travel and living in the trailer time. So don't let you "gotta haves", and you "gotta knows" discourage you. You'll learn and grow into the life style over time. With an open mind it can be quite enjoyable and burden free.

Looking for used trailers that don't have major difficulties can be difficult. That's why we purchased new. Others have done quite well from the used trailer market. It all depends on how much time and effort you're willing to put into it vs dollars.
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