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Old 07-02-2014, 01:47 PM   #15
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Jon,

I agree about expenses when home. We have a lot of visitors during the summer, 14 on Thursday and more on Friday. We can spend more on food in a day than we might spend in a week on the road.

Obviously we don't full time with our longest stretch 310 days. We also like the LaPaz county park.
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Greetings Norm, Ginny, and fellow travelers.

As mentioned elsewhere at FGRV forums, my wife and i _full time_ in a ~500ish square foot 38ft fifth wheel. We too subscribe-to and follow the Tiny House movement. We downsized from a 3 bedroom farmhouse on an acre of land when the nest was empty back in 2011, and are currently parked at an RV-Golf Resort on the Oregon Coast. We go out about one Monday-through-Friday every 5 to 6 weeks from spring through fall with our adventure rig many of you have read about here on the forums.

Some in-context-rambles

On Tiny House as future dwelling...
We are really enjoying the downsize and it is, for us and our we-would-be-comfortable-in-a-submarine personalities, a comfy & cozy _home_. Also, there is a whole lot of fluffy-frilly stuff one can even pack into something this size and still be organized and non-cluttered. Cari has a curio case with some of her favorite rock-hounding finds and other trinkets. Now i will state that Cari plans to give all this to our two kids at some future point when downsizing even further into a future RV rig (we are in the planning stages now...a five year plan).

On organization...
I mentioned our 5th wheel has good use of space and actually, we find ourselves wishing we hadn't gotten into such a beast. Since we are rarely a hug-away from each other (as i type she is next to me in our lazy boy love seat recliner) we know we will be happy in a much smaller set up. The trick, as Norm has shared is finding a spot for those things you really use on a regular basis and give/donate/sell that which you don't. As one continues to downsize (and we are even pondering going all the way down to a class B van conversion for a few years) you just (again for us/some) continue to feel lighter/freer. Cari and i are so much enjoying life without all the _stuff_ we once thought needed to be in storage/shelves/displays. The "Cloud" is a great place for all those family photos! And yes we have a nice old-school photo-collage on a wall, but most are digitally stored for all the family to access from online and comment on.

Books and such...
We are both readers and researchers. We downsized our ~600+ physical book collection to about ~a dozen keepers and are building up our digital-book-library on a monthly basis. The digital copies can be shared between our laptop, netbook, galaxy-tablet, and iPad Air. Right now Cari is enjoying a Sherlock Holmes series on the galaxy, and i'm reading a fun book on Hammock use.

On Entertainment...
In the big rig we do have all the typical fun electronic entertainment stuff, but, i'm hoping to sell the xBox and downsize that area since the tablets are much more entertaining for us. Yea the rig came with a big screen TV, though we find ourselves basically only watching a movie or two a week and have not watched any live TV in many years on our screens. We won't miss any of that once we really downsize. Give us a weekly WiFi fix via a free hotspot or our Verizon service when back in a service area and we will be fine. We actually enjoy the low-connectivity times (i.e. no internet access due to out of cell or WiFi area) during our off-pavement adventures. After all, the natural beauty is why we left the pavement!

Anywhoo, a fun thread & will be checking in now and again.
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Very nice Thom,

Like you we slipped into it. Big house to summer cottage to 32' motor home to 16 foot trailer. Ginny is sure that if we had gone directly to Scamp it wouldn't have worked. She just would not believed that level of transition was possible.

We love Oregon and have spent a fair amount of time in and near Astoria.

We rarely purchase hard copy books anymore and have a library of about 1500 e-books, a lifetime worth of reading.

We do have TV and watch it most days, particularly before we roll out. We follow college basketball, particularly the University of Connecticut women and men, both national champions last year. We also use internet radio. It's amazing that you can listen to virtually any station in the country in real time.

Glad to read things are well.
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Old 07-09-2014, 03:09 PM   #18
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Thom, We're about to purchase a 450 Sq ft Park model, primarily for our 'older' age. We are keeping our Scamp and still intend to travel, next spring Newfoundland and next fall the west again. Definitely not ready to stop. The park model is in our Escapee Park, a place we've occasionally visited over the last 8 years.

Like you planning ahead a little.

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The Park Model sounds like a nice home base for down the road. We might end up going that route ourselves in time.

You've probably got several sources for your ebooks like we do and i'm always looking for additional sources with good deals. I recently found www.bookbub.com. They send a daily email with a handful of free or low cost ebooks in categories you pick. It's been a good find.

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Norm and Ginny,

good luck with the park model. Also, I always enjoy your posts as well as many of the others on this site.
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Thank for the information on free ebooks! I will check them out!

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Old 07-10-2014, 07:44 AM   #22
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Thom, The park model does meet our requirements.

The park is small, 127 sites so you can know everyone. Practically everyone in the park is a former RVer, most full timed extensively, and a many still own a rig.

The yearly fees are low, $100 a month and includes all park maintence and includes everything except electricity. Beyond that it's warm in the winter, surrounded by orange groves and in a rural Florida setting, yet relatively close to major airports and not too far from a city (45 miles).

Prices for Park Models are usually less than $15,000 and the price of your lot (about $12,000) is refundable when ever you want to sell. On top of this Florida treats seniors well. There is no state income tax, another benefit.

In fact Florida is Ginny's favorite state though I like Oregon (and of course Newfoundland).

The Park Model is insurance for our older age and allows Ginny's sisters to visit (the sisters just will not fit in the Scamp).

Getting old is not what many of the young imagine, Ginny's mother used to say "the golden years are not so golden". The aches of aging insure that in part. As a result of her words and our own aches we're attempting to prepare for the next 2(?) decades.
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Thom, The park model does meet our requirements.

The park is small, 127 sites so you can know everyone. Practically everyone in the park is a former RVer, most full timed extensively, and a many still own a rig.

The yearly fees are low, $100 a month and includes all park maintence and includes everything except electricity. Beyond that it's warm in the winter, surrounded by orange groves and in a rural Florida setting, yet relatively close to major airports and not too far from a city (45 miles).

Prices for Park Models are usually less than $15,000 and the price of your lot (about $12,000) is refundable when ever you want to sell. On top of this Florida treats seniors well. There is no state income tax, another benefit.

In fact Florida is Ginny's favorite state though I like Oregon (and of course Newfoundland).

The Park Model is insurance for our older age and allows Ginny's sisters to visit (the sisters just will not fit in the Scamp).

Getting old is not what many of the young imagine, Ginny's mother used to say "the golden years are not so golden". The aches of aging insure that in part. As a result of her words and our own aches we're attempting to prepare for the next 2(?) decades.
Norm,
I am glad that you and Ginny are making plans for your future! Not many people plan for the future. I believe that a future with no plans, is not much of a future! Thank you for sharing your plans with all of us. You are providing us with a good example! It is never to early to start making plans. As, you know the path of life travels by pretty fast! It seems like just yesterday I was starting in the first grade.
I am thinking about Texas. They do not have a state income tax. They also, have a lot of sun shine. We are planning a trip down to Livingston, Tx. some time this year to see the Escapee Park. (I got that suggestion from you!) Thanks!

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Carl, You know I'm a happy Escapee but be warned that there are two types of Escapee Parks, those owned by the Escapee Corporation named generically named Rainbow Parks and those owned by the people who reside in them called Coops.

Generally the Coops price their lots based upon what they cost to create them plus park and owner improvements. For example our park was created some 25 years ago for about $7,000 per site, they now cost about $12,000. Over those 25 years the park has added park-wide wireless, each site has a shed, and usually a concrete parking spot and patio, hence the price increase. Note inflation and market prices are not involved. Coop parks are totally self governed though you have to be an Escapee to buy in or stay there (though non-Escapee guests are allowed to stay for a week as a test.)

Rainbow parks like Livingston are different, generally they sell lots and people build structures on them. Price is set by the owner. Livingston is an interesting visit and I suspect they will let you camp there, at least as a test.

When you go take both of the tours. One tour is the Care Center. The Care center, assisted RV living, is very interesting, affordable and a great idea of community solution. The second tour is of the mail center and administration. The mail center is extremely well run and supportive of our life style. You get a legal address and excellent mail service; they actually have their own zip code. Be sure that you ask for an Escapee Magazine. You should also check to see if these tours are available on weekends before you go.

Another interesting Escapee Park is in Summerdale, AL, not far from the coast. It is also a Rainbow park but better organized than Livingston. They sell lots there and lease lots there.

Another park maybe even closer to you is in Hollister, MO adjacent to Branson. They may lease sites there but it's main purpose is a campground for traveling Escapees.

If you PM me your address I'll send you an Escapee magazine or you can call Escapees and they will send you a trial issue and a membership kit. 888.757.2582.
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Cari's treasure chest

Cari has a curio case with some of her favorite rock-hounding finds and other trinkets. Now i will state that Cari plans to give all this to our two kids at some future point when downsizing even further into a future RV rig

Thom and Cari,
I collect rocks as we travel about, not that I know their source but they attract my eye. For years we had plastic bags of them about the house, separated typically by color.

Finally we decided to use them and scattered them among our white quartz walkway and garden. They are being passed onto the next generation and others by chance. People walk up to our door noticing them. particularly the young, and ask to be able to take one. Our trips replenish them and all are satisfied. maybe sparking a little stone curiosity.

Small things...
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Carl, You know I'm a happy Escapee but be warned that there are two types of Escapee Parks, those owned by the Escapee Corporation named generically named Rainbow Parks and those owned by the people who reside in them called Coops.

Generally the Coops price their lots based upon what they cost to create them plus park and owner improvements. For example our park was created some 25 years ago for about $7,000 per site, they now cost about $12,000. Over those 25 years the park has added park-wide wireless, each site has a shed, and usually a concrete parking spot and patio, hence the price increase. Note inflation and market prices are not involved. Coop parks are totally self governed though you have to be an Escapee to buy in or stay there (though non-Escapee guests are allowed to stay for a week as a test.)

Rainbow parks like Livingston are different, generally they sell lots and people build structures on them. Price is set by the owner. Livingston is an interesting visit and I suspect they will let you camp there, at least as a test.

When you go take both of the tours. One tour is the Care Center. The Care center, assisted RV living, is very interesting, affordable and a great idea of community solution. The second tour is of the mail center and administration. The mail center is extremely well run and supportive of our life style. You get a legal address and excellent mail service; they actually have their own zip code. Be sure that you ask for an Escapee Magazine. You should also check to see if these tours are available on weekends before you go.

Another interesting Escapee Park is in Summerdale, AL, not far from the coast. It is also a Rainbow park but better organized than Livingston. They sell lots there and lease lots there.

Another park maybe even closer to you is in Hollister, MO adjacent to Branson. They may lease sites there but it's main purpose is a campground for traveling Escapees.

If you PM me your address I'll send you an Escapee magazine or you can call Escapees and they will send you a trial issue and a membership kit. 888.757.2582.
Norm,
Thank you for explaining the difference between the two groups! Thanks for the offer for a magazine, but I have all ready joined and they have stared sending me the Escapee Magazines. I will be sure to check out Hollister, MO.
I will take the tours that you recommended, when we are in Livingston!

For your information, since your are a rock hound of sort! Arkansas has a diamond mine that people can go and dig for diamonds! I have been there once, but I did not find any thing. But, we want to go back and do some more digging. Every so often they plow the field and new diamonds show up.
You can file this information away for future use? HA!

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A Lesson

Fourth of July is always a big week at our place, one of Ginny's sisters was born on July 3rd and we always host her birthday party. This means lots of guests for most of the week. I can honestly say we enjoy the week. As well, I have noticed with passing time that the effort is becoming large, age is reducing our abilities.

My July 3rd sister in law in a quiet moment commented how much she likes being away at their southern condo where their time is tailored to just each other, how much easier that is for them.

Ginny and I had recognized that same ease in the first few years of this 14 year RV adventure. There is an ease, a simplicity, when it's just us on the road, Really our commitment is just to each other.

So much our previous standard life wass tied to the schedule of others, to business, to membership, .... not necessarily bad but demanding, yet accepted as the natural.

At their Southern condo, on the road with Ginny, is another place, a space just ours. Certainly we've been to some wonderful places but even the non-wonderful places we're in OUR space. It's obvious I'm in love with our life. Our time on the road provides a different opportunity from the pressure of our younger life, the sometimes an unseen pressure of the younger life.

Just a thought about life away from the norm....
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Not many people plan for the future. I believe that a future with no plans, is not much of a future!
As I was reading that it hit home pretty hard. As I have heard about the Military, most Armies fight a war prepared for the last one, not the current one. I certainly have tended toward that and have a several sheds full of tools & equipment to prove that I have put that theory into practice. Moving forward I am going to try and break my streak of poor or substandard investments. At least that is my excuse for pouring money into my Scamp.
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