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Old 05-24-2016, 05:04 PM   #15
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I have a 13 with bath and two small dogs. I wouldn't do it without the bath, I hate peeing in the woods at night in the cold. I'm going to change the standard bed to a U shape, the design I just saw on the scamp site looks totally doable for me - and I'm terrible with tools. Good luck and happy scamping.
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Old 05-24-2016, 05:11 PM   #16
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In my opinion, it's too small.

Camping in a 13' trailer and living in the same trailer are two very different things. In my view a bathroom is essential for your particular situation and 13' with bathroom is very small. There is also the question of how often do expect to actually tow the trailer or will you be stationary for extended periods of time?

In either case I would seriously consider something bigger and don't fear Margaret, the 16' trailer is not much different then the 13' from a towing perspective. It may even tow better and you won't regret the extra space.

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Old 05-24-2016, 05:54 PM   #17
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In my opinion, it's too small.

Camping in a 13' trailer and living in the same trailer are two very different things. In my view a bathroom is essential for your particular situation and 13' with bathroom is very small. There is also the question of how often do expect to actually tow the trailer or will you be stationary for extended periods of time?

In either case I would seriously consider something bigger and don't fear Margaret, the 16' trailer is not much different then the 13' from a towing perspective. It may even tow better and you won't regret the extra space.

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LOL I was thinking the same thing.. I have a 16 for just me and a dog.. and I would not want to go smaller, even for short trips.

But I did not chime in because the fact is, this is very individualized decision, and what works or does not work for me might not apply to anyone else.

And when you consider the other questions the OP has asked in similar threads, it becomes very hard to know what is best.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:01 PM   #18
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Escape weighs 2200lbs. Similar to a Scamp 16 with bath.
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Old 05-24-2016, 10:14 PM   #19
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Oh my, we were just tonight talking about a wrap aroun couch and smaller table....this should be a new thread?
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Old 05-24-2016, 10:30 PM   #20
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My only question would be if you want a dinette separate from the bed. In the 13' they are one in the same, so you would have to take down the bed every day if you want a dinette. For me, that's a bit small.
Yes, the one with the bathroom has the bed/dinette combo, which is a bit of a drag.

But at least the dogs could sit on the seats.

I've already figured out how I could sew two sheets together to make kind of a "sleeping bag" so I wouldn't have to remake the bed every night.

Of course I would prefer a dedicated bed AND a bathroom.

But . . . I have to go with what's available.

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Old 05-24-2016, 11:12 PM   #21
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Escape weighs 2200lbs. Similar to a Scamp 16 with bath.
An Escape 19'? right? 2200lbs? Did you strip out all the standard equipment?

Thats about 400lbs lighter than Escapes stated dry weight for it and about 900lbs lighter than the lightest loaded one on the Real World Weight thread. And 1700lbs lighter than the heaviest listed.

My 16' side bath Scamp with no AC BTW was also one of the lightest on the Real World Weight thread & it weighed in many times at between 2500/2600lbs with little to no water in the tanks.
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That's why we really like the escape! The bed is just a bed, side bath n kitchen, front dinette!
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:57 PM   #23
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My two story house, full basement, attached garage, with a shop and skid shed out back is too small for me and two dogs.
I did meet a lady with a Casita13, who traveled with 6 (YES SIX) dogs and she seemed to have room for all of them!
So we know it CAN be done! Some might even enjoy it!
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Old 05-25-2016, 09:39 PM   #24
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My wraparound couch design can be configured into a 34" bunk and a 20" two person dinette table permanently setup on the widebed models while still having the option to drop the table and make it into a full bed.
With the older standard model that would be a full 30" bunk and a 14" wide dinette table. The seating would of course still be wraparound for roomy comfort.

The pictures show the 20" table set up with the bench at 24" all around. The rear pulls out to 34" if a person were to travel alone leaving the table up.... or drop the table and make the 54" bed for two.
Well Floyd, as partly based on your innovative designs, I went ahead and decided to purchase a 13' Scamp that's in AZ!!!! I would love to know more if you don't mind, so I might pm you. Thanks, Margaret
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Old 05-25-2016, 09:42 PM   #25
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Here's what I would do for only one person. I'd ditch the big table and build a bridge across the back of the dinette wide enough to serve as a single bed, making it into a U-shaped seating area. A small pedestal table or even a folding TV table would easily serve for indoor dining, and there'd be space to sit on the sides without disturbing the bed at the back.

Floyd has done this- hope he will see this and show you pictures.
Thank you so much Jon in AZ! Speaking of AZ, I'll be in your state in approx. three weeks, buying my Scamp 13.

I would like to know a bit more about how this would be done.

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Old 05-25-2016, 10:40 PM   #26
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Have you set foot inside a 13' Scamp with bath to see how it feels, imagine where you would fit your things, and so on? I would never buy a trailer without at least being inside one like it (same size and layout).

Oh well, if you decide at some point that it's too small, you will be able to sell it for just about what you paid. And you will have had a nice trip (picking up the Scamp) thrown into the bargain.
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Have you set foot inside a 13' Scamp with bath to see how it feels, imagine where you would fit your things, and so on? I would never buy a trailer without at least being inside one like it (same size and layout).

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VERY good point!! When I was first looking for a small trailer I was very sure I wanted a Scamp 13' - that was until I got a chance to sitting in one

Quickly changed my focus to find a 16'.

When first shopping for my current trailer I was sure I wanted one of a certain layout & size... again that was until I got to sit in one... ...
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:03 AM   #28
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VERY good point!! When I was first looking for a small trailer I was very sure I wanted a Scamp 13' - that was until I got a chance to sitting in one

Quickly changed my focus to find a 16'.

When first shopping for my current trailer I was sure I wanted one of a certain layout & size... again that was until I got to sit in one... ...
Getting inside one can really make a difference! My husband thought a 13 foot would be sooooo small, too small for a family of four. We drove up to the mountains and looked at a 13 foot Boler with front bunks, and he fell in love with the layout! Couldn't believe how much space there was. So instead of a 16 foot with bath, we bought a Scamp 13 with bunks. So we did the opposite!
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