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Old 03-29-2015, 04:46 PM   #15
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I had a Ford Focus wagon, which coincidentally took the exact same size tires as our Chrysler PT Cruiser. When we changed out the Cruiser's tires, we upped the size 1". The Cruiser handled beautifully.
So we also put the larger size tires on my Focus wagon and holy smokes, it was like driving on ice, with worn out shocks. The car dipped and wove if I made any sudden steering wheel turns. The tire place didn't believe me until I took them for a drive in it, after which they immediately changed me back to the exact recommended tires and all my instability issues went away. That little Focus wagon had no tolerance for anything other than the factory spec'd tires.
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:30 PM   #16
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Hitch weight 150 lbs when propane is full. Drives the same when not towing.
BTW the 150lbs on the hitch may be under 10% of your total trailer weight. On the Trailer Weights in The Real World thread the 13' Scamps and Bolers weighed in between 1620 lbs & 2200 lbs loaded for camping. Casita 13's come in at even more.

A trailer will be more prone to sway with such a light tongue.

Re the vehicles past history - sometimes it takes nothing more than hitting a big pot hole to knock it out of alignment.
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:53 PM   #17
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Going back to square #1, as this is a trailer site, my 1st concern is with your tongue weight. You HAVE to know that as well as your trailers weight to safely tow at any speed.


If your hitch doesn't drop any at all I suspect that you have to much weight in the back 1/2 of the trailer and the hitch is light, a very bad thing.

So, to speak to that problem, get out a scale and weigh measure hitch and with the trailer loaded, get a total axle load weight as well. If the tongue weight is not 10% or more of the axle load weight that will lead to instability.


You need to know your actual weight, mfg's shipping weight is usually up to 500 lbs under what you will weigh packed and ready to go.


Let us know what you find "As Loaded".
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:18 PM   #18
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Now that I think back, my '96 Windstar seemed to wander a lot at highway speed. Wind gusts would send it off course. I was constantly correcting course with the steering wheel. I took it back to the dealership and they said they made an adjustment to the rack and pinion (steering). After that it was much better.
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:58 PM   #19
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Ideally I would suggest getting the Rav to a good independent shop. I believe you have an issue with your vehicle and the folks that have been looking at it so far are not finding the problem.
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Ha ha been there done that with a pot hole for sure! Alignment was checked and at low speed she drives straight as a pin. Never had sway until this vehicle. Truck scales put trailer at 1520 lbs this trip. Nothing but paper and plastic products, clothes, 3 bath towels, an electric skillet. I didn't bring food, water or firewood this trip. Pillows and blankets were in Rav.




QUOTE=Carol H;512786]BTW the 150lbs on the hitch may be under 10% of your total trailer weight. On the Trailer Weights in The Real World thread the 13' Scamps and Bolers weighed in between 1620 lbs & 2200 lbs loaded for camping. Casita 13's come in at even more.

A trailer will be more prone to sway with such a light tongue.

Re the vehicles past history - sometimes it takes nothing more than hitting a big pot hole to knock it out of alignment.[/QUOTE]
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Truck scales put trailer at 1520 lbs this trip. Nothing but paper and plastic products, clothes, 3 bath towels, an electric skillet.
Was that weight while it was still hitched to the vehicle. If so don't forget to add in the tongue weight to get your Total weight which is what the tongue weight of 10% should be based on.


I agree with the others though that as you have the issues with the vehicle when not towing as well as towing I would take it to an independent garage to have it checked out or another dealer.
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I agree that shocks and struts can change the entire ride of a vehicle once worn down to a certain point, I would check on what heavy duty shocks/struts are available for that rig.
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Thasks for all the excellent advice! I will use it to try and find a solution or else trade. Glad to hear none of yall have experienced this with your Ravs.

Yes the trailer was unhitched when weighed not by choice but bc the scales couldn't pick it up otherwise.CAT scales can read a min of 1500 lbs at least that's what it was at that truck stop.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:49 PM   #24
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Check with Toyota for a recall. I had an 07 with a rear suspension recall-don't recall which parts or which years were affected. Good luck.
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Old 03-30-2015, 01:19 PM   #25
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Rav 4 to Toyota Venza

I traded my 4 cylinder Rav for the Toyota Venza and hav'nt looked back. Turned out that the claimed 900 lb boler was really over 2000 lbs with a 250 lb tounge weight. Even the Venza was a little floaty feeling with the boler. I bought an escape and it came with a light duty rease equilizer hitch rated for 3500 lbs.. Hugh difference feels and handles much better.
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We're not talking about a 4 cylinder RAV.
The vehicle in question is a RAV4 V6 and if properly equipped is rated to tow 3,500 lbs. with max 350 tongue weight.
I have no issues towing my 17 foot Escape.

BTW, it doesn't matter what your hitch is rated for, the critical spec is what the vehicle it rated to tow. My WDH is rated 14,000 #. The hitch receiver is rated 4,000 # and the vehicle is rated 3,500 # so 3,500 is the limit.
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I traded my 4 cylinder Rav for the Toyota Venza and hav'nt looked back. Turned out that the claimed 900 lb boler was really over 2000 lbs with a 250 lb tounge weight. Even the Venza was a little floaty feeling with the boler. I bought an escape and it came with a light duty rease equilizer hitch rated for 3500 lbs.. Hugh difference feels and handles much better.
So true.... The right connection makes all the difference. Doesn't it make one wonder how the Rav4 would have handled with that light duty Reese WDH?

Even so I know how nice those Venza's drive and no doubt you are very happy with your new combo. Any pics Grant?
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BTW, it doesn't matter what your hitch is rated for, the critical spec is what the vehicle it rated to tow. My WDH is rated 14,000 #. The hitch receiver is rated 4,000 # and the vehicle is rated 3,500 # so 3,500 is the limit.
Maybe, maybe not......... oh forget it, the explanation can get complicated and the gal here is ringing the dinner bell. We'll chat another time.
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