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Old 02-05-2015, 04:12 PM   #15
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I towed cargo trailers of that weight for several years... but only because those cargo trailers had no brakes on them. But after one too many times of being pushed by the trailer when I had to stop fast for traffic, I got fed up and replaced the cargo trailer with a braked trailer.

Do you "need" to use brakes with a 16' Casita? 99% of the time, you don't. It's the 1% that will endanger your safety or the safety of others. So, my answer is definitely spend the money. One day you will be glad you did.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:54 PM   #16
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Trailer brakes for sure on that one! You would find that without trailer brakes you will be replacing brakes on you TV more often.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:20 PM   #17
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Trailer brakes, I would not pull a trailer over 2000 lbs with out them. I want to stop!!!
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Old 02-06-2015, 12:37 AM   #18
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In Alberta brakes are required on trailers 2500 lbs and over ,that is trailer and pay load. and if your trailer has brakes ie electric brakes you are required to have a brake controller. I have towed without brakes once . but not twice spend your time having fun .And not waiting to get your rig back from the body shop.Happy Trails
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:39 AM   #19
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Confused about brakes

Wow- thanks for all the great answers. I took my 2004 Sienna in without the Casita to Quality Bumper in Phoenix and they installed a Class II trailer hitch. I don't understand how the brakes/car/trailer system works. Wouldn't they have to set up the brakes on the Casita, not the car? I had a 1998 Sienna and had the trailer hitch and brake controller installed and then the car died before I ever had a chance to tow anything.

I had to have the trailer axle replaced at Spectrac.

Whatís the difference between a tow package and trailer hitch? Iím new at this and am clueless. I never know what questions to ask at the RV shops.
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The trailer hitch is just that, just the hitch ( attached to the frame of the tow vehicle). A tow package would include the hitch, wiring and brake controller(or at least a connector for the brake controller). This should also include a 7 pin connector mounted on the hitch or bumper.

The brake controller will supply a voltage to the trailer brakes when the brake pedal is pressed. This voltage will vary by the settings of the controller and on the better controllers, the inertia of the tow vehicle and trailer combined. There are a couple of different controllers but most people here will recommend the Tekonsha Prodigy Series Trailer Brake Controller. They seem to be the cream of the crop and fairly easy to use and adjust.

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Old 02-07-2015, 12:22 PM   #21
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You really need to ask specifically what is in the "tow package" when you are at the shop or dealership. The factory tow package in my Toyota Tacoma included hitch receiver, 7 pin wiring, and transmission cooler, but no brake controller. My neighbors new Dodge included a factory brake controller in addition. To someone else a tow package might be a hitch receiver and a 4 pin wiring harness. Ask questions before you buy.
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What’s the difference between a tow package and trailer hitch? I’m new at this and am clueless. I never know what questions to ask at the RV shops.
FYI Julie.. All Canadian and most US 2004 Sienna's are built with the factory tow pkg already installed. That means they have all the heavy duty upgrades to be rated for 3,500lbs.

To be sure you have the HD parts take your vehicles VIN to the local Toyota dealer and they will verify. Note the trailer hitch receiver is not part of the tow package and needs to be added by the owner as you have done. You got a class ll. My preference would have been a class III.

Hope this helps.
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You really need to ask specifically what is in the "tow package" when you are at the shop or dealership. The factory tow package in my Toyota Tacoma included hitch receiver, 7 pin wiring, and transmission cooler, but no brake controller. My neighbors new Dodge included a factory brake controller in addition. To someone else a tow package might be a hitch receiver and a 4 pin wiring harness. Ask questions before you buy.
Boy is that ever true. Here in the US, my Toyota RAV4 with tow package left out the hitch, 4 pin or 7 pin connector & wiring, trailer brake controller and wiring, etc. All that was included was a larger alternator, heavier duty fan coupler, and increased radiator capacity.
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All that was included was a larger alternator, heavier duty fan coupler, and increased radiator capacity.
And, in Canada, those items were standard on the RAV4 V6 Sport. They were an option in the US. You really need to get the particulars for your vehicle ( year, make, model ).
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I take my hat of to Toyota back then as they tested their new models (prototypes) in the Canadian winters to see how they stood up. I would guess they used that info/data to come up with the idea to build the HD parts into the vehicles.
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With or without tailer brakes 'Safety first?'

Was told some states 3000 lbs others 1500 lbs and required and in Ontario 3500 lbs or if weight is equal to 50% or more of the towing vehicle weight then brakes required. So if you plan to travel outside your state you may need to have trailer brakes and a breakaway switch and battery if not surge type.
Surge brakes are often used here for Boats not sure about camper trailer use.


Personally would want electric brakes for any load over 500 lbs. just for safety due to braking effects.
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Boy is that ever true. Here in the US, my Toyota RAV4 with tow package left out the hitch, 4 pin or 7 pin connector & wiring, trailer brake controller and wiring, etc. All that was included was a larger alternator, heavier duty fan coupler, and increased radiator capacity.

Tow pakage;

Ours came with hitch, rad, 7 pin wiring, brake module, extra safety systems, etc. from dealer at time of purchase

We did add to that some upgrades and items though after the fact recommended by rv dealer and car dealer.
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And, in Canada, those items were standard on the RAV4 V6 Sport. They were an option in the US. You really need to get the particulars for your vehicle ( year, make, model ).
Have found its pretty common for vehicle manufactures to offer up very different trim packages for Canada vs the USA. Vehicles even when built in the US to be sold in Canada will have a different trim package than the cars they build at the same facility to sell in the US. Strange but true.
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