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Old 01-24-2014, 07:06 PM   #29
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Some of the campgrounds in Canada near grizzly country do not allow soft-sided trailers, tents, etc. if there are issue with a local beast. I was in a tent (pop-up in US terms) trailer in the interior mountains of S. British Columbia where I first read about this policy 2 years ago. Out went the pop-up and I finally found a 10 year old 13 ft.Trillium Outback FG trailer. I still keep the bear spray handy, though.

As per the weight issues, as a former hiker and present kayaker/canoeist, I, too understand about packing light. After several trips in my 'egg' I've found I've added a few more 'comfort' items i.e. new, quality mattress, solar bedside table lamps, a few 'real' plates & bowls, etc. I do cook outside as well as much as possible. I have an aluminum table that rolls/folds up that I use outside under the awning if it's raining. I'd like to get a screen room with the roll down solid sides in case of bugs and wind. It has a port-a-potty (what you term a portalet?) but I've not had to use it to date.

Quite capable of being off-grid with solar. I don't like to use batteries for anything though outside of storage.

Also want to make an attachment to the outside of the trailer to fasten my 2 burner propane stove. I have 3 or 4 lightweight backpacking stoves but I find I'm getting used to the ease and flexibility of having 2, very stable burners!

As for water, I carry my own separately in the back of my small truck bed.

All of these changes in my camping lifestyle came about when I ended up being the last one in my group sleeping on the ground! I have a bomb-proof tent, good bag and a very comfortable sleeping mat, but the hard sided trailer and the opportunity to travel with these folks convinced me to go to the 'other side'. They go in a group down South, stopping in big box store parking lots overnight enroute. Not feasible with a tent!

I also am dealing with how to carry my kayak or canoe. Being a truck I need to use a rack for the bed rails and one on the cab. Still working on that one.

Reading about how you like to travel and bear issues, I can understand your concerns. Just a few of the things I've discovered since making the switch. Good luck in your search for solutions. Yes, getting old ain't fun - I'm 67.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:42 PM   #30
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Barb; I made a kayak rack that sets in the bed of my pickup, held in with ratchet straps. I have a full size pickup with an 8' bed.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:54 PM   #31
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Yay!

Barb, sounds like we have a lot in common. I guess we've earned the right to a cushier form of camping.

So excited. Going to see a Scamp in New York tomorrow, it's posted on the classifieds here. Had a serious discussion with my partner, turns out he wants to go even cushier than I was planning ("What do you mean we can't put stuff in it?"), so we will be upgrading the TV. Maybe a Highlander, will start looking. I will get something I can add a hitch extension to, if necessary, for the kayak length - - should I start a new post on this? The current owners of the Scamp will tow the car to me tomorrow if we make a deal. Can't wait to meet you all on the road, thanks for all the help!
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:01 PM   #32
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Vicki,

You've come to his senses. A Highlander will serve you well and I doubt your kayaks will require any hitch extension.
In my case, I wanted a Toyota Tacoma 4X4, but my wife pointed out that we are not getting younger, and that the climb up into the cab would only get more difficult as we age.
I heeded her advice and got a RAV4 ( which is no longer a contender as of 2013 ).
You'll be a lot happier, have much more pleasant travels, if you're not living on the edge.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:22 PM   #33
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Glenn, sounds like you came to her sensess! What happened to the tow capacity for the RAV4? I remember reading something about a change in 2013, but can't find it now by googling. Is it retroactive? Or could I buy a pre-2013 RAV4 and have proper capacity?
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:48 PM   #34
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Pre 2013 RAV4 with the V6 and tow package is rated for 3,500 lb. and 350 lb. tongue weight. In 2013, only the 4 cylinder is available and the tow rating dropped to 1,500 lb.
I tow a 17B Escape and I use a WDHitch.
I've got less than 62,000 kilometers on my RAV ( 38,500 miles ) and I plan to keep it a long time since I don't want a large, expensive vehicle and I don't see anything that appeals to me ( not that the RAV makes me feel macho ).
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BarbinBC Quote: Also want to make an attachment to the outside of the trailer to fasten my 2 burner propane stove. UnQuote

I have to ask why you want to attach it to the trailer? If it's portable you can move it out of the wind. And, you can move it away from the trailer so bears aren't attracted to the grease splatter.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:06 PM   #36
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Hmm. Liking the mpg I can get with the RAV4 on a daily driving basis. May have to go that route, used of course. Not liking that you can't open the back gate while towing. Hard to say if that inconvenience, alone, is worth the upgrade to the higher MPG of the Highlander. Does it bother you not getting into the back while hooked up?
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I just go in from the rear passenger door, if I can't get at what I want through the back door ( it opens about 6" ).
But, as aggravations go, it's not that bad.
What's worse is my habit of putting stuff I need in the storage compartment at the very back and then placing stuff like my generator and cooler on top of the lid.
A little bit of planning goes a long way.
As for mileage, the newer vehicles seem to get a lot out of a gallon of gas.
My last tank, driving mostly around town, and idling more than I should, not towing, I got 17 MPG ( 13.8 liters/100km ). I have done 10.5 liters/100km ( about 22 MPG ) when not towing. So, be prepared to be disappointed in gas economy.
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..., so we will be upgrading the TV. Maybe a Highlander, will start looking. ...
Looks like a Highlander would be a great choice, and would open up a bunch of options for both hauling kayaks and trailer types/sizes. Here is my tug and trailer carrying 16.5 ft canoe.
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And mine with a 16' Prospector on top.
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Barb; I made a kayak rack that sets in the bed of my pickup, held in with ratchet straps. I have a full size pickup with an 8' bed.
Thanks for that. I do have one of those that I built as well, but without a rack for the roof of the extended cab, my boats stick out the stern end too far even with an 8 ft. bed.

What I've read about hitch extensions, I'm not willing to go that route. So I'm looking for a single bar roof rack for the cab, then I can move everything far enough forward for clearance.
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What you need to consider is the flex between the cab of the pickup and the bed. There can be considerable twisting action when traversing uneven terrain.
You really don't want to strap the bow of your boat to a rack on the cab, and the stern to a rack on pickup bed.
Much easier on the boat to have it on racks mounted entirely on the cab, or on the bed.
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BarbinBC Quote: Also want to make an attachment to the outside of the trailer to fasten my 2 burner propane stove. UnQuote

I have to ask why you want to attach it to the trailer? If it's portable you can move it out of the wind. And, you can move it away from the trailer so bears aren't attracted to the grease splatter.
With the back lid and wings I don't think much will get on to the trailer itself - I did this before with the pop-up. It will be under the awning and I'm planning on having some sort of windscreen too. Then I can cook in the rain! If it's good weather and there's a picnic table available I set up on that as there's more flat surfaces for everything. The portable table I have is 3' x 3' so don't like to take up all of that area with the stove.

Otherwise it's back to Tarpology 101 and related stresses!
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