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Old 03-12-2014, 02:21 PM   #57
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HI, Very interested in VicCT's thread as we are in similar kayak and trailer situation - just bought a Trillium 13 (1977) and am trying to pair it up with a good tow vehicle. We are lightweight campers with two 15 foot kayaks. We are looking at the Ford Escape and I am crossing my fingers and toes it will allow us to take our kayaks and trailer with no turning interference.

Forgive me if I missed a thread regarding the Escape but does anyone have opinions on this vehicle with kayaks and towing? We are looking at a 2013 2.0 Eco Boost model.

I am very anxious to hear from anyone who has an opinion - I value them all !!!

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Old 03-12-2014, 02:56 PM   #58
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HI, Very interested in VicCT's thread as we are in similar kayak and trailer situation - just bought a Trillium 13 (1977) and am trying to pair it up with a good tow vehicle. We are lightweight campers with two 15 foot kayaks. We are looking at the Ford Escape and I am crossing my fingers and toes it will allow us to take our kayaks and trailer with no turning interference.

Forgive me if I missed a thread regarding the Escape but does anyone have opinions on this vehicle with kayaks and towing? We are looking at a 2013 2.0 Eco Boost model.

I am very anxious to hear from anyone who has an opinion - I value them all !!!

Thanks

Janice & Rick
You can easily google the towing capacity of the Escape model you are deciding on. I have a 2011 Escape 6cyl (no tow package), and pull a UHaul. I won't try to claim that "I don't even feel it back there" because I can tell that I'm towing something but I'm within the towing max.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:28 PM   #59
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HI, Very interested in VicCT's thread as we are in similar kayak and trailer situation - just bought a Trillium 13 (1977) and am trying to pair it up with a good tow vehicle. We are lightweight campers with two 15 foot kayaks. We are looking at the Ford Escape and I am crossing my fingers and toes it will allow us to take our kayaks and trailer with no turning interference.

Forgive me if I missed a thread regarding the Escape but does anyone have opinions on this vehicle with kayaks and towing? We are looking at a 2013 2.0 Eco Boost model.

I am very anxious to hear from anyone who has an opinion - I value them all !!!

Thanks

Janice & Rick
Just make sure you weigh the kayaks and check the Escapes manual as to the roof rack weight capacity, I know for example my Outback could not take with the original manufactures racks the weight of two fiberglass sea kayaks.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:43 PM   #60
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J & R; under this very topic section is a thread by frank-A about wiring up his 2013 Ford Escape. I know it's fairly new to him and he may not have towed with it yet, but he will certainly have lots of info. Don't think he's a kayaker though. His thread title starts out "7 pin rv plug-"
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:44 PM   #61
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For 2010, load limit on the Escape OEM roof rack was 100 pounds evenly distributed. That's typical for crossovers in this size range and is unlikely to have changed much. But if you'd like to look at the most current owner's manuals, just plug in the year/model at this Ford link.

Aftermarket racks sometimes are rated as having "more" capacity, but it's important to note that stability of the vehicle is also a factor in MFR determination of the roof's load limits. 100 pounds is likely a "safe" marker before center of gravity begins to be negatively affected, perhaps increasing the risk of rollover.
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Good advice from Carol about the rack weight limit. I think I'm pushing our CRV's rack limit with two 12 footers. Due to a mistake by me on choice of rack parts I had both kayaks along with the rack come off on I90. My rack that is, not the Honda OEM rack.
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In order to carry two single fiberglass sea kayaks on my Subaru I had to use a completely different complete Yakima rack system (gutter risers and cross bars) could not use an part of the factory rack mount at all.
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Aftermarket racks sometimes are rated as having "more" capacity, but it's important to note that stability of the vehicle is also a factor in MFR determination of the roof's load limits. 100 pounds is likely a "safe" marker before center of gravity begins to be negatively affected, perhaps increasing the risk of rollover.
A lot depends on where the risers of the aftermarket racks are attached.... the issue with many of the factory mounted racks is they are mounted onto the roof in from the edge which is part of why they are not rated to carry as much.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:13 PM   #65
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I think one issue the OP wants addressed that hasn't been discussed is if you have two 15' kayaks side-by-side is there likely to be a problem with clearance to the trailer in a sharp turn.
I have only had a single 16 foot canoe on my rack and since it is centred on the rack, turns have no effect on it.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:16 PM   #66
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Yes, I think Glen is right, the issue JRTrillium seems to be most concerned about, and the one I am still concerned about, is the clearance of the long kayaks (I have a 15.5 foot and a 16.5 foot) off both sides of the back of the car. When we turn, will our kayaks punch a nice hole in the fiberglass trailer? As Glen notes, a single boat centered on the car will not have the same clearance problems as two long boats on either side of the car.

I am still not sure this will be a problem, and won't know until the first time I mount my kayaks on the rack this spring, and have an opportunity to measure the rear overhang with them mounted as far forward as possible. But I have thought about possible solutions. There are side rails you can have installed on your car that will allow the forward most cross rail to be more forward than the factory mount position. See the link below for the Yakima version:
Yakima Permanent Base Racks at Rack Attack

I think using something like this, and mounting the cross rails as far forward as possible, could gain us a foot or so.

Hope that helps!
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Vicki if you are going to go as far taking of the factory rack off and replace it and if you have any concerns about the allowable roof weight I highly recommend looking at a Yakima rack base mount system that does not use the manufactures tracks on the roof. Talk to the guys at Rack Attach about it - I may be wrong but I think it will give you more weight allowance on the roof.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:38 PM   #68
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Hi all, just posted on the newbie forum - - we finally found our Scamp 13, and right here in CT! It was towed to our friends' house Saturday, where it will live when we are not using it. I brought my Element over today and lined it up with the hitch and parked it at different angles, as if turning with the Scamp in tow, and took measurements, and I *think* we are going to be ok with kayak overhang. And, I am looking to get a better tow vehicle, but I think the same will be true for the Rav4. We will have to push the kayaks forward a little bit, but not enough that it would compromise their stability on the rack. The true test will be when we actually try it, of course. Kayaks are in storage and not fun to wrassle out, so that will wait a few weeks for warmer weather. I will report back then.

If I do need to buy myself some wiggle room, I will remove the roof rack of whatever I am driving and install the Yakima tracks, so that the front crossbar can be as far forward as possible. The other potential solution, for those with a tow vehicle that will allow it (Rav4 will not), is to mount a front hitch receiver and use the Thule Goalpost on the front of your vehicle to support the front of the kayaks, with the roof rack supporting the back.

Good luck to others dealing with this, and any further input welcome!
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Your post was a most welcome and positive one this morning. We are picking up our Ford Escape this week!! It will be our vehicle to tow our 13 ft Trillium and transport our kayaks as well. We will have 14.5 kayaks so am hoping there will be no issue - with the measurements we did at the car lot we figure all should be well.

Thanks and maybe we should post pictures when the time comes to load 'er all up!
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Definitely! I am shopping for my Rav4 this week. Will have to get hitch and electric brakes installed, then order racks. Will probably be about 2-3 weeks before I am all set up, but will definitely take photos then!

I think with 14.5 foot kayaks you should be even better off than me, with my 16.5. That one will be pushing it!
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