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Old 02-20-2015, 12:23 AM   #15
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17' Casita dlx towing query-Thank you

My heartfelt thanks to everyone. This is far more than I expected and has given me much to think about. Thanks too for the thoughts on packing the trailer.

The tow vehicle is a 2014 4Runner with the 3.4 V6. I'm not going to be in a hurry to get anywhere (one of the reasons for buying the trailer), so I'm not concerned about power as long as the TV can handle it without strain.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:56 AM   #16
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If you look here:
Trailer Weights in the Real World
you will see that the 17' Casita can get right up to the towing limit for your vehicle.
That said, regardless of positive reports out there (peeps tend to NOT report negative problems when towing overweight), towing that close to limit, especially if your TV has some miles on it, may not be the best idea.
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Looking at the actual weights recorded on the trailer weights in The Real World thread I do not think Casita was kidding when they said they tend to be heavy on the tongue - keep in mind most of these trailers were weighed at a full service campground so its doubtful they were carrying much in the way of water in their tanks.

I do not think a V6 with a 4700lb tow capacity would have much trouble pulling any of these trailers assuming the tug also has a tongue weight capacity of 500lbs. :

ITEM_LENGTH_MAKE_____MODEL____AXLE__TONGUE__ __TOTAL
45___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2260_____560__ __2820
51___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2560_____380__ __2940
57___17_____Casita_____Spirit ______2660_____380_____3040
59___17_____Casita_____Spirit ______2740_____380_____3120
67___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2860_____390__ __3250
72___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2980_____300__ __3280
73___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2900_____400__ __3300
80___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3040_____310__ __3350 82___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3000_____360__ __3360
83___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2960_____400__ __3360
86___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3020_____480__ __3400
87___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2960_____440__ __3400
89___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2980_____450__ __3430
90___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2960_____470__ __3430
92___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3140_____360__ __3500
93___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3020_____480__ __3500
94___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3000_____520__ __3520
I agree with Bob to stay within the manufacturers recommended tow capacity, but reviewing the "real weights" I don't see one that even comes close, even the heaviest at 3520 is well under the 4800 capacity. I fail to see any issue with this tug-tow combination.
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Old 02-20-2015, 07:32 AM   #17
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My heartfelt thanks to everyone. This is far more than I expected and has given me much to think about. Thanks too for the thoughts on packing the trailer.

The tow vehicle is a 2014 4Runner with the 3.4 V6. I'm not going to be in a hurry to get anywhere (one of the reasons for buying the trailer), so I'm not concerned about power as long as the TV can handle it without strain.
Bill if your runner is a 2014 it has the bigger and more capable v6, the 4.0L. Toyota stopped the 3.4L in 4runners in 2002.
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Here we go again...
Towing ability isn't all about engine power. It's about stopping ability, suspension and frame strength, handling with an extra ton of weight behind you, etc and etc.


As has been said, When Joe does the wrong thing 50 times without problems, that still doesn't make it right for Mike.... etc.
Bob ; I thought by now you would have learned that common sense ,logic ,facts ,physics , mfg' s vehicle rating ,etc etc have no place in a thread about " Can I tow with X" . Trying to help people to do the prudent thing or post anything that questions their choice of TV is just trolling and should be avoided . Sit back ,relax and ignore these types of threads , life's too short!!

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Old 02-21-2015, 09:22 AM   #19
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Dave, You are quite right. My 4Runner is in Seattle and I'm in Spain, and with fuel-burning machines I tend to go with the smallest available. So I just assumed.... I subsequently checked on-line and was preparing to post a correction when I found your reply. Thank you. I see that you have the very trailer I'm considering buying. Are you happy with it? Where do you use it?
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Dave, You are quite right. My 4Runner is in Seattle and I'm in Spain, and with fuel-burning machines I tend to go with the smallest available. So I just assumed.... I subsequently checked on-line and was preparing to post a correction when I found your reply. Thank you. I see that you have the very trailer I'm considering buying. Are you happy with it? Where do you use it?
Bill i know my toyota's, i have 5 right now, lol. A tacoma, 2 4runners, a solara project car and my trusty old camry. Purchased my 04 tacoma 4x4 5 speed for $500 with a blown engine, because of a oil leak (oil filter was loose) po ran it low on oil. I got it up and running just days before i had to drive it to Rice, Tx. to take delivery of my Casita. 3300 mile round trip in 6 days and not a single issue, gotta love toyotas! We love our SD. My wife named him Humpty Dumpty, lol. We both work full time jobs so we don't get to use him much but we attended our 1st casita rally this past Oct. and had a blast. We have some trips planned this summer. It's just us and my dog so it fits us well.
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Here we go again...
Towing ability isn't all about engine power. It's about stopping ability, suspension and frame strength, handling with an extra ton of weight behind you, etc and etc.


As has been said, When Joe does the wrong thing 50 times without problems, that still doesn't make it right for Mike.... etc.
I agree with you Bob in regards to considering the tv's ability to stop. i upgraded my tacoma and one of my 4runners brakes to the much larger toyota tundra brakes. This is the best bolt on upgrade i've done to my tv.
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That is what I love about my 4Runner is the brakes are huge, 4 piston calipers so the stopping ability is excellent.
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That is what I love about my 4Runner is the brakes are huge, 4 piston calipers so the stopping ability is excellent.
My 4runners are the 3rd gen. One is a 2000 and the other 4runner is a 2002 so the oem brakes on these aren't as big as the full size tundra pick ups. If you have a newer 4runner, like the op, then yea you already have the larger brakes. Tacomas 05 and up also come equipped with the larger brakes.
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My 4runners are the 3rd gen. One is a 2000 and the other 4runner is a 2002 so the oem brakes on these aren't as big as the full size tundra pick ups. If you have a newer 4runner, like the op, then yea you already have the larger brakes. Tacomas 05 and up also come equipped with the larger brakes.
My 4Runner is a 4th gen 08 Urban Runner which does have the large brakes
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Old 02-22-2015, 03:59 AM   #25
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This discussion has been most informative. I agree with you, Dave, on the Toyotas, though I'm a bit unhappy with the En-Tune voice recognition and sat-nav. That may be a matter of spending some time with them, but I find using my iPhone's Google Maps through Bluetooth works better. I thank you for the posts. Some additional questions: How does the Totoya electronic sway control do? Is the Casita Friction Anti-Sway Control still recommended? Does an electric tongue jack add any appreciable tongue weight?
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Only warning I can add as far as the electric tongue jack. If you use it with a weight distribution hitch there is no problem the tailgate open but if you use it without a weight distribution hitch (which has a much longer hitch bar) the jack is close enough where the tailgate on a 4Runner will not open, hits the jack.
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I agree with you Bob in regards to considering the tv's ability to stop. i upgraded my tacoma and one of my 4runners brakes to the much larger toyota tundra brakes. This is the best bolt on upgrade i've done to my tv.
Very nice. Performance mods like that have always impressed me.
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Very nice. Performance mods like that have always impressed me.
Thank you. That's why i love forums, you can learn so much, that's why i'm here to learn from you fine folks. My wife says i spend too much time on these forums reading. I told her absorbing all this great knowledge takes time. I learned about the tundra brake upgrade on tacomaworld.com and t4r.com. Allot of great info there for toyota truck owners. I installed 2002 Z28 LS1 disc brakes on to my 68 chevelle's factory equipped drum spindles. Learned about that on a pro touring chevelle forum.
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