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Old 06-25-2014, 10:46 AM   #1
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1996 Subaru Legacy AWD pull 13 scamp?

Hi folks. Can a 1996 Subaru Legacy AWD pull a 13ft scamp? This is Not an Outback model. I typically don't fill water in the scamp. The engine is either a 2.2 or 2.5 liter 4 cylinder. Thanks
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:19 PM   #2
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I would love to know this as well! I have a 2008 Outback and am looking at a 16 foot Scamp!


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Old 06-26-2014, 02:28 PM   #3
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I am not sure how you would find out towing capacity for a '96, but Trailer Life publishes tow capacities for every year from 2000 here: Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine

Understand they do the best they can, but watch the footnotes, and see if you can find a secondary source for any info you get there.

Best of luck to you.

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Old 06-26-2014, 02:43 PM   #4
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I don't recall if the 1996 legacy had a towing capacity but the 1998 was only 1000lbs with a manual transmission. A 13' Scamp will weight approx. between 1600/1900lbs loaded.

We have someone here who tows a 13' Scamp with a newer Legacy with a higher towing capacity and they have reported a few issues. A big one is clearance. The hitch sits much lower on the Legacy than an Outback and they have reported grounding out over dumps. They also reported that they had to install the brake controller under the steering wheel due to lack of other reasonable spots to mount it. Having it in a spot where you can't see it and reach easily without taking your eyes off the road when its really needed is never a good thing.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:38 PM   #5
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Certainly you "Can" pull it, but is is "Safe" and "Should" you tow a 13' Scamp with it???? Please don't expect anyone here to suggest towing over manufacturers limits, if you want to do that you will be on your own.....

Why don't you try calling Subaru and have them look up the original specifications and follow those, especially because you are talking about an 18 y.o. passenger vehicle. Unfortunately, from what information is available, you won't like the answer.

BTW: If you already have said Scamp, get it ready for a trip and get it weighed....
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The Trailer Life guides aren't perfect. The 2008 guide lists my Highlander's limit as 3500 lb, when it's really 5000 lb.

Towing 13'ers with Subarus is quite common. 16s, not so much, but still it's been done.... however, the big bug in the pudding is the 200 lb hitch weight limit that's so common amongst the Subies. Really a 13' is the better choice. And if you want to drive the Rocky Mountains, you might not like even a 13'er back there, because some of those long steep grades at high altitude will really slow you down.
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And if you want to drive the Rocky Mountains, you might not like even a 13'er back there, because some of those long steep grades at high altitude will really slow you down.

And, then there is coming down the other side.
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Hi,
Carol H. was referring to me. I tow a 13' Scamp with a 2008 Legacy. See my avatar and my registry page as well as attached photo (Zion National Park). You can also see my previous postings by doing a search under the FGRV Search button. (go to the bottom of the drop-down window for the Google search) The issues Carol mentioned are minor. We LOVE our Subaru and we LOVE our Scamp and we LOVE towing the Scamp with the Subaru.
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The Trailer Life guides aren't perfect.
I wholeheartedly agree Mike, which is why I suggested a secondary source for verification in my post. I find the guides helpful, but certainly not always accurate!

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Gotta say, Carol brings up some good points and, FWIW, the TV in post #8 looks a tad low at the hitch, and much more so for the Scamp.

That said, I can't see how recommending pulling a Scamp with a 2008 vehicle sheds any light whatsoever on doing so with the a 1996 vehicle that is similar in name only. At least one would hope that changes and improvements were made in those 12 years.

Again, go to the source, either your owners manual or Subaru, no others count, especially with your insurance company, or the other guys attorney, should there be an accident.

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I towed a 13' Ventura with a 2001 legacy (auto) and a 2003 legacy outback (5sp). I found that the power was marginal but the real problem was the frontal area of the Ventura, which is a streamlined "brick". The Scamp is much more streamlined and should tow better. The tongue weight is also a limiting factor but careful loading of the trailer can help there. I think the towing on the 2001 Legacy was like 1500lbs and the 2003 outback was 3000 (both with brakes). Both worked but you ran out of power pretty quickly. I went to a 2003 F150 and then replaced the Ventura with a Casita 17 SD.
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I went to a 2003 F150 and then replaced the Ventura with a Casita 17 SD.
What kind of F150 do you have? I have a 2001 Super Cab XLT 4.6L 4wd that we have been pulling our ParkLiner with. This weekend it's going in the shop for rear load leveler shocks. When I bought it last October I put all new brakes all around, new front ball joints, and shorty ceramic coated headers on it as it had an exhaust leak and I wanted something better than stock manifolds. It sure tows well. I've got maybe 106,000 miles (170,000 km) on it.

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Gotta say, Carol brings up some good points and, FWIW, the TV in post #8 looks a tad low at the hitch, and much more so for the Scamp.

That said, I can't see how recommending pulling a Scamp with a 2008 vehicle sheds any light whatsoever on doing so with the a 1996 vehicle that is similar in name only. At least one would hope that changes and improvements were made in those 12 years.

As Bob suggest there were lots of changes in regards to engine, transmission and body style that took place between 1996 and the 2008 on the Legacy resulting in two very different vehicles.

The two big ones being that the 1996 had a 2.2L with 135 hp @ 5400rpm and the 2008 on the other hand had a 2.5L with 170 hp @ 6000 rpm. The torque number is an important fact in regards to towing ability as well and there is an equally as big difference between the two model years in that regard as well.

The other big change is that the 1996 Legacy does not appear to have a tow rating or if it did it was very low (call a Subaru dealer to confirm) and the 2008 does have a tow rating. Between 1996 and 2008 there were changes to the body style and as a result the ground clearance between the two model years changed, so its very probable that some changes took place in regards to the rear suspension and or axles as well which can/will change a vehicles towing capability.
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I posted #8. The best advice is to talk to people who know your car AND your trailer. As to the comment about our low hitch. It is at the correct height according to Scamp and it IS tilted slightly low for better towing according to the Scamp manufacturer instructions. We bought our trailer new and picked it up at the factory as the avatar indicates.
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