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Old 10-13-2013, 12:35 AM   #15
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Scamp 16 tongue weight.

We've towed our Scamp 16 for 3 or 4 years and have never had a problem keeping the tongue weight below 200 pounds.

We do it by having just one propane tank. As well we always carry a half tank of water. Our axle weigh is typically in the 2400 pound range.

We do not have a roof top AC or attached awning though do have a home style AC and a homemade awning.

As well we keep the trailer ball as close to the Honda 's rear axle as possible, 38 inches. This is a low percentage of the Honda' s wheelbase. The Honda sinks about a 1/2 inch at the rear wheel well when connected.

We do carry stuff in the Honda keeping most of it over the rear axle or between the axles. The stuff includes our small volcano grill, sat tripod and dish, 32 water bottles, auto supplies and books/maps box.

We do have some rear trailer storage though mostly light items.

We are mostly relatively slow drivers not exceeding the 65 mph marked on our trailer tires being both conservative and really old.

We have been everywhere with our small tow vehicle, driven many miles, now 200,000 miles on the tow vehicle, and find our 22 year old fiberglass trailer amazing, it is also conservative and old, but not really old.

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couple. Glad to share more details.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:59 PM   #16
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Thanks to all for your replies, in particular Eddie, Carol and Norm. Norm, your posts are always wise and encouraging.

I'm still looking at the Outbacks. I'm also considering a Mazda CX-5, 2.5L SkyActive, if anyone has any experience with these. Tow rating is 2000 lb.

I looked at the Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost. 3500 lb with towing package, but I'm not crazy about turbos.

Thanks again.

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My st tires are rated to 85 mph under proper pressure/loading.
True, but being an ST tire it still has the high failure rate and at 85MPH.........hoocheemama!
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We bought a Scamp 16 deluxe in August. I installed electric brake control and hitch on my '05 Outback 2.5 turbo. After some mi,nor repairs and updates we set off for a 5 day trip to Cape Henlopen Del. Part way there we blew the oil hose on the turbo and then the turbo died! We completed the trip without the turbo functioning, then had a Subaru dealer replace the turbocharger on the way home. It cost a whopping $3,400 ! Now my wife is convinced the camper blew the turbo and she won't take the Subaru on any more camping trips! Anybody have experience pulling a trailer with a OB Turbo?
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It cost a whopping $3,400 !
That is outrageous. That is one reason I buy vehicles with conventional drive train designs and keep it simple. No 4 wheel drive, no turbo's, and no superchargers. It has worked for me for decades.

Though, to keep things in perspective. The cost to replace a factory installed, in dash GPS unit for a BMW X3 is also $3,500.
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Who would replce a BMW GPS for $3,500?
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A good question norm. I would simply stick a $150. Garmin in front of the BMW unit.

I looked at a 2006 X3 on a lot a couple months ago. The sales rep told me about the faulty GPS unit that was in the car and the estimate they got from BMW to replace it.
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Yikes. Of course I was kidding. We use our phones. Ginny's cousin has a BMW and complains about the cost of ownership.
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We bought a Scamp 16 deluxe in August. I installed electric brake control and hitch on my '05 Outback 2.5 turbo. After some mi,nor repairs and updates we set off for a 5 day trip to Cape Henlopen Del. Part way there we blew the oil hose on the turbo and then the turbo died! We completed the trip without the turbo functioning, then had a Subaru dealer replace the turbocharger on the way home. It cost a whopping $3,400 ! Now my wife is convinced the camper blew the turbo and she won't take the Subaru on any more camping trips! Anybody have experience pulling a trailer with a OB Turbo?
Well I have to admit I suspect your wife is right. Although I havent pulled with a turbo Outback I have owned other Outbacks in years gone by. What I have noticed as well as my mechanic is that I seem to be replacing a lot of parts I have not had to replace on previous Outbacks with more milage now that my car is 6 years old but relatively low milage. Many of the parts that I have had to replace were rubber which suggests a heat issue - which is why when anyone asks I suggest they stick to pulling a 13' trailer and not max it out with a 16' as I am starting to be a firm believer that its not easy on the car.
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Carol... what parts needed to be replaced on your Outback? Thnxs.
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We bought a Scamp 16 deluxe in August. I installed electric brake control and hitch on my '05 Outback 2.5 turbo. After some mi,nor repairs and updates we set off for a 5 day trip to Cape Henlopen Del. Part way there we blew the oil hose on the turbo and then the turbo died! We completed the trip without the turbo functioning, then had a Subaru dealer replace the turbocharger on the way home. It cost a whopping $3,400 ! Now my wife is convinced the camper blew the turbo and she won't take the Subaru on any more camping trips! Anybody have experience pulling a trailer with a OB Turbo?
Blowing an oil line took out your turbo, not the camper. Pulling the camper doesn't raise your oil pressure. I always figure turbos have a 100k mile lifespan, that's why my subaru doesn't have one.

The other thing that could shorten the life is your egt while towing.
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Carol... what parts needed to be replaced on your Outback? Thnxs.
So far axle boots and steering boots and few belts that went sooner than expected. I talked with another party who pulls with an older Outback at Bandon this summer and they have replaced all the boots as well - more than once and seem to think its just part of the wear and tear - funny none of my past Outbacks had to have those items replaced even though they had more miles. Also currently booked in for a special compression test to rule out another issue I have that I feel fortunate to have been advised may not be a head gasket issue .... it if the tests that are being done prove correct it is an issue I am told related to excessive heat. Funny thing is I have had the transmission oil checked and changed more than once and all good in regards to the transmission so the tranny cooler is at least doing its job...... Have also never noted the engine temp gauge to go up either.... but aware that the ones on the car may not be all that great.
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On most modern cars, the gauges won't move much. They're programmed to have a dead zone. If you look, almost all gauges run at halfway, under almost all conditions. Too many people complained if a needle moved a hair, so they all have a dead zone now, and are not much more than an idiot light that looks like a gauge. Ticks me off. They've made an early warning/diagnostic tool completely worthless, just to keep the idiots at bay.
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So far axle boots and steering boots and few belts that went sooner than expected.
Thnxs...

Our 1993 Nissan Quest was 16 years old, had 465,000 klm's on it, towed our Airstream and Coleman pop up for years and the axle boots were original and never failed.

Our 1997 Nissan Quest is now 16 years. Two years ago the left axle boot failed, the right boot failed a couple months ago. It now has 275,000klm's on it and has never towed anything.

Probably heat has not much to do with the boots. Quality variance of the parts is probably the root cause.

Belts, not sure/won't guess. Our G35 gets a work out towing the 23' and I replaced both belts at 180,000klm.s
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