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Old 11-09-2013, 07:19 AM   #43
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OK, thnx... wow that is high.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:05 AM   #44
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We tow with a 4 cylinder with 5 speed manual transmission, typically in 4th gear and at normal cruising speed the rpm is around 3500.

We have no trouble in the mountains but do have to downshift on the tougher climbs.
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Has anyone had significant experience going through mountains or steeper grades?
Does it hold speed reasonably well?
I have a 13' Scamp with a front bathroom.

I would think it would be fine pulling a 13'.
Havent done it with a CVT Outback but have done some pretty steep mountain passes and grades (its been to 10,000 feet or higher) with an Automatic 07 Outback with a 16' Scamp. My Outback does have an optional sport mode that I use when doing hills to stop the transmission from hunting on hills or having the RMP shooting up. I can keep up with traffic in most situations. Have actually passed on many big passes some pretty big trucks and rigs and have gotten more than a few glaring looks from the owners of those rigs as I pass them. I do know on *really* long steep climbs that it will struggle (but many/most of the big guy rigs are as well) but again I am/was pulling a much heavier trailer than you are considering.

Edit: Just want to add it is after all a 4 cylinder vehicle and I dont have any expectations for it to have the same get up and go fast from 0-60 as I do a 6 cylinder or higher.
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Our experience is similar to Carol's. The reality is that in a 11 months loop of the United States, the number of steep mountain pass climbs is relatively rare as a percentage of driving. I doubt it averages 10 minutes a day and probably less. Our vehicle is approaching 10 years of age and 200,000 miles with no vehicle complaints.
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Mc1, 3000 rpm in 6, 3700 in 5, 4300 in 4

I'm not debating how rare mountains are, but if they want to hold speed, which is what they asked, it's not going to happen.
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Jared thnxs, those numbers are high. Wouldn't have believed it. Looks like that engine really needs the revs to make power.
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Mc1, 3000 rpm in 6, 3700 in 5, 4300 in 4

I'm not debating how rare mountains are, but if they want to hold speed, which is what they asked, it's not going to happen.
Much higher than my none CVT Subaru.
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We have a 5 speed and typically drive in 4th, about 3,500 rpm 55-60 mph. Our Honda seems very happy at 3,500 rpm.

We do not maintain speed going up long, steep hills but generally as fast as most 5th wheels, to us that's enough.

If you want to go up hill as fast as you do on the flat you'll need a larger tow vehicle than a 4 cylinder. It's a choice between power and economy.

As to the CVT, I have never had one so their ability to tow is a question. I like the concept but am concerned about the lack of history.
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Pretty sure the high revs mentioned Norm are due to the CVT.
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Pretty sure the high revs mentioned Norm are due to the CVT.
I have a 6 speed manual. I wouldn't own the cvt.
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Much higher than my none CVT Subaru.
As said above, mine isn't cvt. I was less than impressed with the lack of power with the cvt.
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First, to be clear 3500 RPM are not high revs for our Honda, actually it's the normal range whether we're towing or not. Historically Honda engines have been high revers. (I should mention that for most towing I could be in 5th gear but Ultragauge indicates that 4th/3500 rpm is more efficient giving better mpgs.)

Second we do not have a CVT, Continuously Variable Transmission. We have a 5 speed manual transmission. Typically we drive in 4th gear when towing. 4th gear translates to 3500 RPM at 60 mph. In Florida or on flat stretches we will sometimes drive in 5th gear, more from habit because we drive in 5th when not towing.

The OP needs to understand that responders to his post all 'may' drive at different speeds and on different kinds of roads and over different terrains. In our case when towing, unless the roads are rough, we drive at 55 mph. On our trip across Labrador's gravel Highway it was probably 35 mph.

In our case we criss-cross the USA and Canada for about 8 months a year. We drive 55 on most non Interstate roads and 60-62 mph on Interstates.

Our Ultraguage keeps track of our average speed over our trips and I am always amazed by how low our average speed is. We've driven 3000 miles since we left NH, now in FL; half the miles were the ride down and half around here. Recognize that speed around the county are pretty high, yet our average speed is 40.7 mph.

On our recent 4000 mile trip to Newfoundland, we averaged 37 mph (love that Utraguage). The Newfoundland trip included virtually no City driving with at least half the miles US or Canadian 'interstates'.

All discussion of speeds, hill charging, and miles per gallon need to take into account the driver/poster's driving style and need.
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subaru outback 2.5

i wonder if a 2011-2013 outback 2.5 could tow a lil snoozy about 2200lb i will have to weigh the snoozy twin bed model . i tow it now with a 07 toyota sequoia 4.7 v-8 . i dont even feel it but mpg is 15-18 . I like the outbacks size and weight my friends all get over 25-30 mpg .So anyone towing a 2200-2500 lb trailer Lets hear all subaru owners or is there somthing better mazda cx5? ford escape? ???

BTW I will keep my sequoia for towing a bigger boat . for maintenance and hurricanes
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The Mazda CX5 seems like a very promising pkg in every way.

They drive and handle like a sports car and with 184HP should have the power to easily handle 2,000 plus lbs. 0 to 60 times are under 8 sec.

http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/cx-5/2014/road-test.html

To put in perspective our 150HP Nissan van towed our 4,500lb Airstream for many klms with no issues.
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