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Old 11-27-2013, 11:15 PM   #57
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If you Google Mazda CX5 towing capacity, you can find just about any number you might hope to find. Hitch companies claiming up to 525 lbs tongue weight.
Hidden Hitch claims 400 lbs for the one on my RAV4, although Toyota says 350 lbs.
Have you found specs from Mazda?
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:22 PM   #58
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i wonder if a 2011-2013 outback 2.5 could tow a lil snoozy about 2200lb i will have to weigh the snoozy twin bed model .
Yup it can tow it but only in the tongue weight of the trailer is under 200lbs and the trailer has electric brakes.
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:02 PM   #59
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mazda cx5 diesel

I would like to wait for the 2.2 diesel from mazda now that would be the best for towing i just hope we get it before Im to old to use it ?
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Yup it can tow it but only in the tongue weight of the trailer is under 200lbs and the trailer has electric brakes.
Is that 200lb tongue weight for real??? It must be a typo. Hard to believe a 3,500lb crossover vehicle is labeled so low.
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I would like to wait for the 2.2 diesel from mazda now that would be the best for towing i just hope we get it before Im to old to use it ?
A Mazda with the diesel sounds like a real nice TV.
Also.... apparently the Jetta diesels are available in NA right now and have some amazing capabilities when the set up is right.
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Is that 200lb tongue weight for real??? It must be a typo. Hard to believe a 3,500lb crossover vehicle is labeled so low.
Yes 200lbs is the tongue limit & Subaru does not recommend the use of a WDH. Its the #1 reason my Outback has been retired from towing and why I suggest people stick to a 13' with only on propane tank if they want to tow with an Outback.

and NO it does not have a tow cap of 3500lbs.
The standard Outback 2.5 which the OP asked about has a towing cap for 2014 of only 2700lbs. The 3.6 has a tow cap of 3000lbs but still only 200lbs on the tongue - which would be ok pulling something such as a boat.

Subaru also introduced a diesel Outback on the other side of the big pond this year, so perhaps we may see on in NA in the not to distant future.
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Casita 16 foot with 2014 Outback 2.5 CVT

I have a 2014 Subaru OB with the 2.5 CVT combination. I had a 2013, which was demolished by my ex wife, so have a total combined of about 20,000 miles on this year model, and this is my fifth Subaru, fourth new.

Some of the complaints I've read about slow acceleration with the CVT may be attributable to pre-breakin cars. There is a definite breakin period with Subarus, and it appears to be about 2500 miles before the full power capability, as well as the "driving memory" in the CVT and engine computers acclimate to the driver's style. This has been confirmed to me by two service advisors at top Subaru dealerships and my own experience. Both my 2014, which has 5000 miles and the wrecked 2013, which went out of service at 13000 miles, have plenty of power and both have the rear suspension with heavier anti sway bar, firmer shocks etc which started in 2013. Factory spec is 2700 lbs tow capacity with 200 lb hitch weight.

That said, I've pretty well decided on a 16 foot Casita which weighs at 1970-2185 dry weight, and 215 to 255 lbs "approximate" hitch weight. I'm guessing the hitch weight can be lightened by shifting the propane to the back bumper and rear-loading any provisions, waiting till arrival at the campground to fill the water tank, etc. I will be traveling light, with one companion, one or two bicycles and weekend provisions, and intend to remain within a couple of hundred miles of home for the most part. I may travel longer distances alone. So, all totaled, laden weight for the car and trailer combined might go up by 500-600 lbs including the two people, belongings and provisions. That 500-600 lbs can be distributed either in the car or the trailer or both.

The factory rep has told me they have had plenty of experience with the OB without difficulty towing the 16 foot models. I can't, however, find much if any information from owners about their direct experience using 2013 or 14 OB's to tow a Casita.

If anyone out there has direct experience with the later model OB and a 16 foot Casita would you please post a reply to this? I'd like to find out if the OB really is suitable, how stable it is, fuel economy, how the CVT does, etc.

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Well I can add a couple of points here. Check the Real World Thread in regards to what a Casita will actually weigh on the tongue. Having spent 5/6 years towing with an Outback with a 2800lb tow cap and a 200lb tongue weight limit I can tell you that keeping the tongue weight low & achieving a solid stow isn't as easy as you think it will be even on the lighter overall Scamp 16' side bath.

Also I have owned a few Outbacks previously as well as the first Legacy wagon and none have had to have the level of repairs the current Outback has had over the last year or so with only 60,000 miles on it. The list was becoming pretty long of items never replaced on previous Outbacks that did not tow but had more milage on them. Retired it from towing earlier this year as a result of those repair issues, sadly not soon enough as the head gasket went on it shortly after - add another $2200 to the over and above regular maintenance issues ....
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I towed a 16 ft Scamp SD with bath for several years and never got my Scamps tongue weight down to anywhere near 200 lbs . I too traveled with one companion ,one tank of propane , minimal water and our total trailer weight was still between 2500 & 2600 lbs . At a point you can only pack so light before you start leaving necessities at home . As an example= We live in a cold climate state so we carried clothes for our weather conditions and everything adds to your total weight. Our current Casita trailer has a listed tongue weight of 365 lbs but the actual tongue weight is between 425 and 450 lbs.
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Hi Carol H

I checked both the post replies you sent. The Escape is about $3000 base price higher than a better equipped Casita, and though I am not certain, I think import duties would be required. I prefer to buy an American built product, and the floor plans and features don't work for me anyway.

I'm sorry you had bad experiences with Subarus. I have never had a single problem since switching to Subarus in 2007, and my experience is pretty typical. They are seeing sales increases exceeding 20% per year consecutively for the last several years, for good reason, and are now selling nearly half a million cars per year in the US. In my experience they are simply outstanding cars in every way and the best price/value around. The head gasket and cam belt problems were resolved long ago (they now have cam chains). Like any car they require proper maintenance, and with proper maintenance they wear very well. I have no experience with models prior to 2007, when, as I've read pretty widely, head gasket and cam chain problems were pretty typical.

Thanks for your comments just the same.
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The factory rep has told me they have had plenty of experience with the OB without difficulty towing the 16 foot models. I can't, however, find much if any information from owners about their direct experience using 2013 or 14 OB's to tow a Casita.
Maybe the factory rep could put you in touch with some of those folks who've been towing the 16er with an Outback. I'm skeptical, frankly, given Casitas' well known tendency to be tongue heavy, and the Outback's longstanding 200 pound weight bearing capacity at the ball. That's your real limiter, you know...stability requirements are going to limit how much you can reduce trailer tongue-to-total weight ratio without committing to driving at slower-than-normal speeds.

The Casita rep might be thinking of the 13er, though even that model can be a bit heavy on the tongue, depending of course on floor plan. Here's a link to a discussion at the Subaru Outback forums, which discussion features input from our very own "McBrew", who relates his experience towing a Scamp 13. That forum might be a better place to post this question- you might at least get responses from folks who've tried to tow bigger trailers with the Outback, whether or not they're fiberglass.
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Thanks Francesca

Thanks Francesca....very helpful link
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