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Old 11-30-2012, 09:15 AM   #15
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If I remember correctly, the 'replacement radiator' for the early ones you mentioned was redesigned. So if you have changed out the radiator, then you should not have to worry about the issue. If your radiator is one of the defective designs, no doubt about it, I would swap it out for a new one, because failure, as you say takes out the tranny, which is horribly expensive. You might want to do a little homework on it, because I may have some of the details wrong....my Frontier is a manual transmission, so I didn't do a huge amount of research on it.
Ironically though, I too had to replace my radiator earlier this year, as it began leaking at the top tank.
I'm like Alf regarding resale, I usually keep them and run them on out. I'll probably keep this '06 for another 4 or 5 years, then just give it to my son as a daily driver/work truck.
Frontier, Xterra, and Pathfinders from 2005-2010 with automatics risk radiator failure with fluid contamination causing transmission failure. Nissan extended the warranty on the radiator to 8 years/80k miles then added 2 years/20k miles with copays as a settlement to a class action law suit. There is still a NHTSA investigation ongoing. I discovered all this when I tried to sell my 2009 and got no interest. In not fixing the problem Nissan has passed the cost onto it's customers. The letters I received from Nissan did not mention the transmission side of things. Had I not tried to sell the vehicle I would never have known. Most unfortunate. Raz
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #16
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I've got a Frontier. It's a very nice truck. Unfortunately the resale value is rather poor to begin with exacerbated by a radiator defect that leads to transmission failure. I'm curious to see what Honda offers as a replacement to the Ridgeline. Raz
Several of my friends own Nissan trucks and have problems with rust . Within 5 years the tailgate , rear bumper and fenders have rusted out . I know the salt used on midwest roads is hard on vehicles but a 4 yr old truck should not have holes in the rear bumper as big as your fist
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:47 AM   #17
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Several of my friends own Nissan trucks and have problems with rust . Within 5 years the tailgate , rear bumper and fenders have rusted out . I know the salt used on midwest roads is hard on vehicles but a 4 yr old truck should not have holes in the rear bumper as big as your fist
Yea, I just pulled my back bumper. Just surface rust. Wire brushed, primed and painted. They brine the roads here. It's cheaper than using salt.
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Frontier, Xterra, and Pathfinders from 2005-2010 with automatics risk radiator failure with fluid contamination causing transmission failure. Nissan extended the warranty on the radiator to 8 years/80k miles then added 2 years/20k miles with copays as a settlement to a class action law suit. There is still a NHTSA investigation ongoing. I discovered all this when I tried to sell my 2009 and got no interest. In not fixing the problem Nissan has passed the cost onto it's customers. The letters I received from Nissan did not mention the transmission side of things. Had I not tried to sell the vehicle I would never have known. Most unfortunate. Raz
Yes, but what I was pointing out in my original post is that I "believe" ( I have been told, and have read this ) that the "replacement" radiator was redesigned to cure the issue of internal failure, which is was causes instant cross-contamination of the coolant into the transmission oil. Knowing that, if I had one of the affected year vehicles, I would determine first if it's true the replacement is different, and if so, I would change it out. It's not worth risking a multi-thousand dollar tranny, when you can replace the rad for a few hundred.

If the radiator has been changed, and you can document it, then that should cure that issue of it effecting the resale in a downward way.

I'm surprised to hear your reports of rust. We generally don't see that as a problem on the Frontiers around here where I live ( Missouri ), and I look at every one I see. It's a popular model around here, I think partly because we have a huge dealer here close by that really seems to push a lot of them out the door. My '06 Frontier actually has essentially no rust, where our '06 F350 Ford is getting so bad, we have places that are almost all the way through. And it has half the mileage vs the Nissan. The Ford is bad enough, we're getting ready to put it in the body shop to get it all fixed. I don't know what the deal is with it.

And yep, they use that danged "brine" solution around here too. I hate that stuff. I noticed this morning they have pre-treated some of the local overpasses with it. Ugghh !

All of which has gone totally off-topic to the thread. Sorry for the diversion....back to your regularly scheduled Rav4 discussion.....
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Several of my friends own Nissan trucks and have problems with rust . Within 5 years the tailgate , rear bumper and fenders have rusted out . I know the salt used on midwest roads is hard on vehicles but a 4 yr old truck should not have holes in the rear bumper as big as your fist
They need to take care of their vehicles. 2004 Titan in the same area, no problems. '89 hardbody, North Dakota, Colorado, kansas, no problems.

Salt rusts anything if you don't wash it. I always thought it funny when people with rusted out vehicles 3x as new as mine, had the audacity to make fun of me washing mine once a week or two in winter. I park the Titan next to a Chevy with rusted out bedsides, a ford with the same, and a Toyota that had a total frame replacement, all within 5 years of the same age. I have a bit of surface rust on my frame…
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Lived in Langdon North Dakota for a year and can't remember them salting the roads. We just drove on top the snow. The locals loaded their snow mobiles in the back of their pickup trucks in case they got stranded.
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My wife and I were waiting for the new Rav in a 6 cyl, also checked out the FJ Cruiser.
Can't figure toyota out with not making the 6 cyl.
We decided on a new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Can't wait to find that camper now and also looking forward to nice weather to take that top off.
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