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Old 11-18-2013, 08:54 AM   #43
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Sounds like the Drive I is a front wheel drive vehicle until you engage the rear wheels. The II is an full time 4 wheel drive with the ability to be towed behind a mobile home. I'd stick with the first one.
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #44
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I agree with Jim. Unless you plan to do a lot of off roading and need the low range, the Active Drive I would be great for gravel roads, wet road startups, and rough campsites.
On the other hand, if you get the Active Drive II, you might go to a few Jeep Jamborees and pick up another hobby.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:15 PM   #45
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I would take selectable or full time over whenever it damn well feels like it. That's a huge reason I bought the subaru. I don't like the on-off awd cars I've driven, it gets screwy. Left hand turn, front end slides out a hair, no problem, little bit of gas and more steering input, doing just fine, but wait... Here comes the awd! Wheeee! Right into the left lane of oncoming traffic. Quick, swerve back on the ice so you don't hit them! I'll pass. I fought the computer all day long in my moms CRV, I hated it. The subaru never changes driving characteristics.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #46
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I believe the Cherokee name has replaced the Liberty.

Consumers doesn't speak towing. They think all SUVs are 4WD and are purchased only for driving in snow. It is only recently that they began to include tow ratings.
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Cool I found this thread interesting.

Since we are going tomorrow to look at a Ford Escape and a Subaru, I found this thread very interesting.
We presently own a Subaru and are quite happy with it. Although we only have 80K miles on it, it is 14 years old.
We are opting for automatic because of our old knees are starting to not like pushing clutch pedals.
I drove a CVT and found it interesting. It is an automatic, but talking about 9 speeds, the CVT has infinite speeds. It accelerates quite nicely without any shift points at all.
Years ago I had a 1977 Cherokee. It had a three speed but with the transfer case, it actually had 6 speeds forward, and 2 in reverse! Of course the low range was only useful in very hard going.
I thought I saw a larger tow capacity for the Ford Escape with the 2.0L Ecoboost, but upon looking at the Ford website, I can't find it. Plus it has the foot activated rear hatch as standard on the Titanium model and the tow package is not available with the foot activated rear hatch. Does this mean the Titanium won't tow? Finding information is a real zoo.
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I thought I saw a larger tow capacity for the Ford Escape with the 2.0L Ecoboost, but upon looking at the Ford website, I can't find it. Plus it has the foot activated rear hatch as standard on the Titanium model and the tow package is not available with the foot activated rear hatch. Does this mean the Titanium won't tow? Finding information is a real zoo.
Go here for tow capability with the 2014 Escape:

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...cape_may13.pdf

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Since we are going tomorrow to look at a Ford Escape and a Subaru, I found this thread very interesting.
We presently own a Subaru and are quite happy with it. Although we only have 80K miles on it, it is 14 years old.
We are opting for automatic because of our old knees are starting to not like pushing clutch pedals.
I drove a CVT and found it interesting. It is an automatic, but talking about 9 speeds, the CVT has infinite speeds. It accelerates quite nicely without any shift points at all.
Years ago I had a 1977 Cherokee. It had a three speed but with the transfer case, it actually had 6 speeds forward, and 2 in reverse! Of course the low range was only useful in very hard going.
I thought I saw a larger tow capacity for the Ford Escape with the 2.0L Ecoboost, but upon looking at the Ford website, I can't find it. Plus it has the foot activated rear hatch as standard on the Titanium model and the tow package is not available with the foot activated rear hatch. Does this mean the Titanium won't tow? Finding information is a real zoo.
It probably means that when it is fitted with a hitch,it covers where the sensor would have been. Also you would not want an automatic hatch coming open when hooked to some trailers which might interfere with or activate the feature. The Titanium has the highest tow rating but the tow package eliminates the automatic hatch feature.
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My long-time mechanic says the newer Jeeps are not good vehicles. Unreliable engines, mostly, but overall shoddy workmanship.

I tow my Bigfoot 17-ft. with my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 4WD, 4.0L engine. It pulls like there's nothing behind until I start a long, gradual climb. Even then, I can keep the Jeep rolling along at 45-50 mph without overtaxing the engine (I don't abuse my vehicle).

This is my 3rd Jeep; bought this one brand new. It has 230,000 miles on it, I've taken good care of it, & it's been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Even with the high miles on mine, it runs like a dream.

If you're really, really sold on a Jeep, maybe look for an older model with a reasonable amount of miles on it?

Good luck with your search!
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My long-time mechanic says the newer Jeeps are not good vehicles. Unreliable engines, mostly, but overall shoddy workmanship.

If you're really, really sold on a Jeep, maybe look for an older model with a reasonable amount of miles on it?

Good luck with your search!
Your mechanic may have been referring to the recently departed 3.8 engine that also powered the Dodge Caravans. The newer 3.6 (downsized to 3.2 in the Cherokee) Pentastar engines seem to be getting good reviews so far.
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Actually it was the 3.7 v-6 which was replaced by the new 3.6 Pentastar motor.
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Actually it was the 3.7 v-6 which was replaced by the new 3.6 Pentastar motor.
That's correct for the old Liberty. Guess I was thinking of the Wrangler since that's the one on my wish list (has been for about 30 years). It had the 3.8. I drove the old 3.8 and thought it was short on power for the Wrangler. I had the 3.7 in my older Dodge pickup and thought that was a decent engine.

I actually like towing with my Subaru, I just have to pay close attention to keep the tongue weight within the 200 lb limit. I have no experience with the Subaru CVT though, mine is the normal 4 spd automatic.
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Your mechanic may have been referring to the recently departed 3.8 engine that also powered the Dodge Caravans. The newer 3.6 (downsized to 3.2 in the Cherokee) Pentastar engines seem to be getting good reviews so far.

Glad to hear that. I love my Jeep & get a bit cross when hearing folks say all Jeeps are unreliable. (Ha, maybe Chrysler was listening, too, & actually improved their product?)

All I know is, I'm not about to part with mine!
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