2014 Subaru Forester- 1500 lb towing - Fiberglass RV


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Old 02-18-2013, 06:12 PM   #1
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2014 Subaru Forester- 1500 lb towing

New engine, better gas mileage- big drop in towing capacity. 6 speed manual available still, though.

Glad I bought mine when I did.
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Not the first manufacture to drop back on tow cap recently. Starting to wonder if we are starting to hear/see on the 2014 models the fall out of the agreement to have there cars/trucks under go the new SAE standard, “Performance Requirements for Determining Tow-Vehicle Gross Combination Weight Rating and Trailer Weight Rating,” If thats the case its not a bad thing.
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If the result of the SAE standard (?) is larger less fuel efficient tow vehicles, it will drive another nail in the RV coffin in North America. If a rule conscious continent like Europe can tow with small fuel efficient vehicles....

Anyone notice how the price of gas has skyrocketed in the last couple of months? Another nail.....

I guess many will be looking for older tow vehicles with their higher ratings....
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It will kill towable RVs.. give a boost to MHs where no one seems to care about fuel efficiency as the assumption is you don't drive them often enough to worry.

What I read said nothing about brakes or no brakes- just a flat 1500 for all models. I'm going to write a little letter of complaint (though I know it won't do any good and most of the Foresters I see do not have hitches so I don't think most people will care.)
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The motor home drivers and 5th wheelers care. I know many who are not traveling. A good friend said at present prices it costs over $2000 to drive back and forth to NE and on top of that $400 a month driving around while in FL because his only vehicle is his big diesel truck.

This is big bucks to a retired person.

The up side is there are a lot of used big rigs available at very good prices, very often less than the cost of a used fiberglass trailer.

Ginny and I are now 70 and feel we should not to wait travel doubting tfavel costs will get better.
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I don't mean the drivers of MHs don't care- I mean the government doesn't. I don't think MH manufacturers are given incentives to make lightweight, fuel-efficient motorhomes.
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Bobbie,
My simple view is not to count on government. Their goals are not mine.

They have provided billions to failed companies that failed, over 30 at last count.

Government incentives will not get us what we want.
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Meanwhile Subaru sells diesel versions of the Forester and the Outback in other countries, but not here. Towing capacity on those is 5000 pounds.
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Well the good news is that Subaru does sell the Outback which has the higher tow cap and would be a good replacement vehicle for someone looking to replace an older Forester and pull a trailer under 2500lbs.

Also its not necessary to buy an older model smaller vehicle to keep your carbon foot print down while towing due to the impressive gas mileage many of the newer slightly larger vehicles are coming out with. I know I have been looking at possible replacement vehicles and the MPG that are being advertised on a number of larger vehicles with much bigger tow caps than my Subaru, are getting *way better* MPG's and some are being sold for the same price & in many cases for less than a new Subaru. Pretty amazing turn around in a few short years in that regard.
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Meanwhile Subaru sells diesel versions of the Forester and the Outback in other countries, but not here. Towing capacity on those is 5000 pounds.
True, and I'm jealous.
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Well the good news is that Subaru does sell the Outback which has the higher tow cap and would be a good replacement vehicle for someone looking to replace an older Forester and pull a trailer under 2500lbs.

Also its not necessary to buy an older model smaller vehicle to keep your carbon foot print down while towing due to the impressive gas mileage many of the newer slightly larger vehicles are coming out with. I know I have been looking at possible replacement vehicles and the MPG that are being advertised on a number of larger vehicles with much bigger tow caps than my Subaru, are getting *way better* MPG's and some are being sold for the same price & in many cases for less than a new Subaru. Pretty amazing turn around in a few short years in that regard.
Until they redo the Outback which is surely coming.

Which vehicles?
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I've been keeping my eye open for a 15' B Escape. My previous '09 Forester had no problem towing the 13' Scamp/bath @ 1840# (Forester had a 2400# capacity). But when I found out that 2013 Toyota Rav4 would not be able to tow only up to 1500#, I pulled the trigger and bought a 2012 Rav4 V6/tow package (3500# towing capacity). The Subie was a fine car, but I wanted to have a capable tow vehicle if the Escape ever comes up. Subie got 20-22MPG towing Scamp. No complaints there. Even in the mountains it got 16-18 MPG. Whatever is up with Govt/auto mfgrs/RV mfgs we're gonna be screwed.

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I've been keeping my eye open for a 15' B Escape. My previous '09 Forester had no problem towing the 13' Scamp/bath @ 1840# (Forester had a 2400# capacity). But when I found out that 2013 Toyota Rav4 would not be able to tow only up to 1500#, I pulled the trigger and bought a 2012 Rav4 V6/tow package (3500# towing capacity). The Subie was a fine car, but I wanted to have a capable tow vehicle if the Escape ever comes up. Subie got 20-22MPG towing Scamp. No complaints there. Even in the mountains it got 16-18 MPG. Whatever is up with Govt/auto mfgrs/RV mfgs we're gonna be screwed.

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I looked at the Rav4 V6 but decided I wasn't going to upgrade any time soon and if I did it would be to a 13 footer since I don't want to go overlength on the ferries. Someday in the future I'll probably have a pickup for towing and a hybrid for everything else but not until I'm permanently in one place.
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Yup they will redo the Outback just as all the manufactures tend to redo their line ups every 3 years or so - unfortunately I suspect they will not redo it as I would like either! :-(

Which vehicles? Well there are a few new small sized SUV's that will get way higher gas mileage than any of the Subaru's of more than a couple of years old and even the new ones but they also have bigger tow caps - two I can think of off the top of my head are the Toyota Highlander 4WD Hybrid and Lexus MDX? Although they are on the pricey side of vehicles - the Subaru Outback is starting to creep up in price at about $30,000 here in Canada for the most basic model now with many falling in the $35,000 & higher range and they dont do any where near as well on gas as the two mentioned do and they have a lower tow cap as well.

Also take a lot at some of the new 2013 and 2014 mpgs being posted for some of the trucks. Never been a big truck fan but I recently had my eyes opened when I had to drive a new Toyota Tundra 4x2 to a ski race into the Rocky Mountains and went through two big mountain passes to get there. Once I got over the shock of the cost of filling it up with gas the first time ;-) I realized on my return trip after looking at the computer on it that I was was actually getting 24 mpg for the whole trip - as good if not better than what my 07 Outback would have done on the same trip. I looked it up when I got home as I was a little surprised and discovered it was actually rated at 25 mpg highway & its base model costs about $5,000 less than a new Subaru Outback base model. Having said that though I would be the first to say that the Outback beats the Tundra hands down in driving in the snow. But for those who seem to think they have to drive a smaller vehicle in order to get better gas mileage - that argument sure seems to be flying out the window fast. I dont think even a 2010 CRV 4wd would do any better MPG wise than the Tundra did under the same road conditions - as it only has a 1 MPG better highway rating. According to Fuel Economy the 2010 Forester 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Automatic was also only rated at 26 mpg highway. As I said things seem to be changing fast in the MPG ratings on bigger vehicles so who knows what in a few years someone could buy with a high tow cap that probable would not even notice a 2000lb trailer behind it but get far better MPG's than any of our current Subaru's.
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