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Old 06-30-2016, 08:09 PM   #15
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I don't get the rationale for this discussion.
Apples, oranges and bananas.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:25 AM   #16
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There's no doubt aerodynamics make a difference. As to VCM, it doesn't make much of a difference, it comes on much less often than when not towing but it does come on.

Only about half our miles when we're traveling, are towing miles. VCM shines when not towing. Driving around Fogo Island in NL where there is no Interstate we averaged 27 mpg not towing on one tank. On US highway driving we're over 30 with a best of 35 mpg for a long highway trip. We've just crossed 40,000 miles with the Odyssey and so far are very happy with it though the whole VCM concept makes me a little anxious. Time can only resolve that feature's reliability.

The Odyssey is a very large vehicle, towing it seems to generally average 19 mpg, a little higher in NL because the speeds are less, not because you can't drive fast but because there's relatively little traffic and I tend to drive slower with less traffic,
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:10 AM   #17
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I'm not really knowledgeable about differences and similarities of the Odyssey and Ridgeline, but I do know that no one with a Ridgeline gets ANYTHING like the mileages Norm reports.
I'm not a speeder or a rubber burner. Without towing I get just about what Honda claims, 19-20 highway and 16-17 city. Towing I get 9-11, at 55-65mph. Other Ridgeline owners I know get about the same.

I know this is going on, but no one needs to read the thread.
Why is it pertinent here? Because tow vehicles and their performance are of interest to at least some folks here.

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I'm not really knowledgeable about differences and similarities of the Odyssey and Ridgeline, but I do know that no one with a Ridgeline gets ANYTHING like the mileages Norm reports.
I'm not a speeder or a rubber burner. Without towing I get just about what Honda claims, 19-20 highway and 16-17 city. Towing I get 9-11, at 55-65mph. Other Ridgeline owners I know get about the same.

I know this is going on, but no one needs to read the thread.
Why is it pertinent here? Because tow vehicles and their performance are of interest to at least some folks here.

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I also tow with a ridgeline and while it does not get the best mileage under tow it is not as bad as yours Walt .im at about a 20% drop in millage which is probably similar to most vehicles and I am by no means a conservative driver. Could it possibly be the difference in what we tow and there weights as I tow a hc1 and norm tows a scamp which I think are more streamlined than the Bigfoot
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:40 AM   #19
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I'm sure that's a major factor in the difference between you and me. The others I was talking about have 17' Casitas. Their weights are close to mine and they get slightly better mileage due to aerodynamics, maybe 1 mpg difference.
But Norm is apparently getting better mileage under tow than I get with no tow, so the vehicles are clearly not comparable.

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I'm not really knowledgeable about differences and similarities of the Odyssey and Ridgeline, but I do know that no one with a Ridgeline gets ANYTHING like the mileages Norm reports.
I'm not a speeder or a rubber burner. Without towing I get just about what Honda claims, 19-20 highway and 16-17 city. Towing I get 9-11, at 55-65mph. Other Ridgeline owners I know get about the same...
I agree, and comparing a Ridgeline to an Odyssey just because they have the same engine doesn't work for me either. The only vehicle you can really compare the new Ridgeline to is the old one. Towing mileage depends on so many factors, but in your case (17' Bigfoot) I suspect the large, blocky trailer profile negates much of the advantage of a more compact tow vehicle.

The advantages of the Ridgeline come when you unhitch. VCM will likely make an appreciable difference in highway fuel economy compared to the old design. I believe the chassis is also new, shared with the resigned Pilot, and taken from the latest Acura MDX, so ride and handling should be more car-like than before.

Reliability is the big unknown. That was one of the strengths of the first generation Ridgelines. Honda has had some misses lately when it comes to reliability. Time will tell.
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Definitely the Odyssey is more streamlined than the Ridgeline. I paid attention to VCM today. In 23 minutes of towing ECO/VCM activated 13 times., more than I expected.

A headwind today and we averaged 18. 1 mpg. Our average speed was 50 mph.

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Old 07-01-2016, 09:46 AM   #22
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I've always been a huge fan of Hondas (and Toyotas, our current fleet), but I have never understood the appeal of the Ridgeline for one reason: the "trunk" and spare tire in the bed. The sales guy at our local dealer was singing the praises of the truck when it came out, but all I could think about was how often my truck was full of gear, mulch, gravel, lumber, etc. Give me a classic drop down spare any day.

No offense to any Ridgeline owners--that's why there are so many different auto designs. I drive an FJ cruiser now, which I love despite it's warts, but the next pickup I buy will be a F150 or Tundra.

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I've always been a huge fan of Hondas (and Toyotas, our current fleet), but I have never understood the appeal of the Ridgeline for one reason: the "trunk" and spare tire in the bed. The sales guy at our local dealer was singing the praises of the truck when it came out, but all I could think about was how often my truck was full of gear, mulch, gravel, lumber, etc. Give me a classic drop down spare any day.

No offense to any Ridgeline owners--that's why there are so many different auto designs. I drive an FJ cruiser now, which I love despite it's warts, but the next pickup I buy will be a F150 or Tundra.

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That's the one feature aside from the reliability that will have me buying another ridgeline l love the trunk and dual opening tailgate I can store allot in there and my bed is always clear.
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That's the one feature aside from the reliability that will have me buying another ridgeline l love the trunk and dual opening tailgate I can store allot in there and my bed is always clear.
I agree, these were my two of my favorite features on the 2011 Ridgeline that I previously owned.
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I haven't stopped in to look yet but I've done some reading. For those interested, you can now download the owners manual. The truck comes in front wheel drive and all wheel drive. Mileage listed 19/26 for the FWD version. Subtract 1 for AWD. It has a transverse mounted engine /transaxle up front. Looks tough to work on. The engine has a timing belt, 105k replacement. Most maintenance is determined by Honda's maintenance minder system. The transmission has 6 speeds. Drive , low, and a forth gear overdrive lock out are the forward shifting options. No transfer case on the AWD, so no low range. While I like the trunk, getting a flat while carrying a load of cow manure might make me like it less . The spare is a temp which shouldn't be used while towing.

The truck comes ready to tow, complete with a brake controller pig tail. The tow ratings are 3500 FWD and 5000 AWD. Exceed two 150 lb passengers and 30lb cargo, these go down. An article suggested the need for premium gas when towing but I've yet to find that in the owners manual.

Like all Hondas, there are no options. They use a tiered model system where even the entry level would have been considered loaded at one time. This of course gets the entry level price up there. Prices start at about 30k. All you'll see at the dealers are the upscale models at first. Reviewers love the ride but lots of complaints on the audio controls on all the upscale models.

First gen Ridgeline had leak issues during the first year due to poor welds. Apparently the welding robots got into the happy juice. Also, there has been coolant/transmission fluid cross contamination resulting in transmission failures for the V6 vehicles that Honda doesn't seem to have handled well.

This looks like a nice vehicle but I'm not ready to trade in my Frontier just yet. Raz
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ine The spare is a temp which shouldn't be used while towing. Raz
IMHO including a temp rather than a full size spare is a mistake on Honda's part. The 2011 Ridgeline had a full size spare, which all trucks should have.
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I'm sure that's a major factor in the difference between you and me.
Not to mention the possibility of different gallons.
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IMHO including a temp rather than a full size spare is a mistake on Honda's part. The 2011 Ridgeline had a full size spare, which all trucks should have.
Given what most people will use this vehicle for, it probably doesn't matter. Perhaps it would help to stop considering or calling this animal a "truck." It's an open-cargo SUV… it's a crossover utility vehicle… it's a super-sized Subaru Baja… it's a ….?

I wonder, though… will a full-size spare fit in the same compartment? I swapped the space-saver spare for a full-size on my Pilot. It's an underbody mount and it barely fit, diameter-wise. The width means it protrudes noticeably below the bumper fascia. Not attractive, but functional. If I didn't tow, I wouldn't have bothered to switch.
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