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Old 04-17-2018, 03:44 PM   #1
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3.5 EcoBoost & Bigfoot 25RQ ???

First-time poster on this Forum (currently happy owner of an Escape 5.0ta).

My mind is wandering to thoughts of upsizing to the 25í Bigfoot rear queen bed. Before I go any further, Iíd appreciate thoughts about the combo of the BF paired with my F150 w/3.5 EB w/10 speed auto. Pretty sure Iíd have to add a leaf spring or two but I could do that. Just wondering if I have enough muscle to drag the bigger trailer? Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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The RQ does have quite a bit of hitch weight, at over 600 lbs. I'm thinking you're right about the springs Rich. If you have the HD tow package it's not a factor.

Figure around maybe 5500 lbs going down the road, and the 3.5L EcoBoost is well within the towing capacity, but as always, it's usually payload where the problem lies. I'm gonna say it'll probably work fine, but there are lots of variables, and I'm not clear on how your truck is equipped.
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Leaf springs and other addons do not change the rating of your truck.

Check the driver's door jamb, that will list the payload of your truck.

Lots of variation in F150 tow ratings, the more options/deluxe your truck, the lower the payload. So a platinum model might have half or even less the payload rating when compared to the more basic models.

Ford also makes several versions of the tow package. If I was buying a replacement truck, I'd get the max payload package, top tow package, and avoid Lariat or higher truck model.

Look up weights in the real world, then get the data on your truck. There is also a VIN lookup tool if you don't know what level tow package you have. Google will get you there.

10 speed plus 3.5 motor is not enough information. Also look at how many passengers you plan to carry in the truck, camper top, side steps, and other dealer or personally installed options? Payload sticker is based on what was on your truck when it left the factory, not the dealer.

In my case (2010 F150), I've added tow mirrors, Ford side bed steps (both sides), spray in bedliner, camper top. All come out of the payload.

Some really loaded F150s with 4WD have surprisingly low payload capacity.

If you run out of anything, it is going to be payload capacity.


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As far as drive train goes, you are in great shape to tow the BF. You might add some air bags to the rear.
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Serious...
So what's the tongue weight of the T/A?
Also, what about a WDH ?

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About that payload...
If you stop for lunch do you have to wait around for a good trip to the restroom before leaving the restaurant?
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The RQ does have quite a bit of hitch weight, at over 600 lbs. I'm thinking you're right about the springs Rich. If you have the HD tow package it's not a factor.

Figure around maybe 5500 lbs going down the road, and the 3.5L EcoBoost is well within the towing capacity, but as always, it's usually payload where the problem lies. I'm gonna say it'll probably work fine, but there are lots of variables, and I'm not clear on how your truck is equipped.
Thanks much, Robert. I appreciate the reply. Howís the house shaping up?
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Leaf springs and other addons do not change the rating of your truck.

Check the driver's door jamb, that will list the payload of your truck.

Lots of variation in F150 tow ratings, the more options/deluxe your truck, the lower the payload. So a platinum model might have half or even less the payload rating when compared to the more basic models.

Ford also makes several versions of the tow package. If I was buying a replacement truck, I'd get the max payload package, top tow package, and avoid Lariat or higher truck model.

Look up weights in the real world, then get the data on your truck. There is also a VIN lookup tool if you don't know what level tow package you have. Google will get you there.

10 speed plus 3.5 motor is not enough information. Also look at how many passengers you plan to carry in the truck, camper top, side steps, and other dealer or personally installed options? Payload sticker is based on what was on your truck when it left the factory, not the dealer.

In my case (2010 F150), I've added tow mirrors, Ford side bed steps (both sides), spray in bedliner, camper top. All come out of the payload.

Some really loaded F150s with 4WD have surprisingly low payload capacity.

If you run out of anything, it is going to be payload capacity.


https://www.torklift.com/blog/entry/...trucks-payload
Thanks, Bill. This is all good info. Iím confused where you say that additional springs etc. donít change a trucks rating. Everything Iíve read says thatís exactly how payload can be increased (?). Can you help me understand? Sorry, this stuff is hard for me to grasp.
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As far as drive train goes, you are in great shape to tow the BF. You might add some air bags to the rear.
Love your closing line, Mike. No truer words ...
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Thanks much, Robert. I appreciate the reply. Howís the house shaping up?
Coming along Rich. They're doing stucco. I've been in DC so I haven't seen the latest. Looking at July completion of all goes well.
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Iím confused where you say that additional springs etc. donít change a trucks rating. Everything Iíve read says thatís exactly how payload can be increased (?)
Your published capacities are the capacities. You don't change those by adding equipment such as springs or air bags. However, and this is where it gets a bit controversial, you "effectively" increase the amount you can load by adding certain equipment. That does not mean however that you can or should exceed the capacities that are listed on the vehicle.
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Coming along Rich. They're doing stucco. I've been in DC so I haven't seen the latest. Looking at July completion of all goes well.
Someday pretty soon, all the headaches of building your home will come to an end and will be in your rear view mirror. After that, nothing but good times ahead. Best of luck to you!
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Your published capacities are the capacities. You don't change those by adding equipment such as springs or air bags. However, and this is where it gets a bit controversial, you "effectively" increase the amount you can load by adding certain equipment. That does not mean however that you can or should exceed the capacities that are listed on the vehicle.
Of course you meant "ratings"?
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Zardoz;
I appreciate your concerns, but how is it that you don't know what the weight is on the pin of your 5.0T/A? What is the overall weight leaving the driveway?
Those pieces of information would be useful in finding the answer to your question.
Robert has given his estimate for the BF.
With the addition of the info for what you now tow you should be well on the way to a solution.

If your F150 Has a tow rating of at least 7500 pounds it would handle more than the 600 pound tongue weight estimated by Robert ( per J2807)

If you don't need to know those numbers are for your present trailer, then why would you need them for the BF?
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Zardoz;
I appreciate your concerns, but how is it that you don't know what the weight is on the pin of your 5.0T/A? What is the overall weight leaving the driveway?
Those pieces of information would be useful in finding the answer to your question.
Robert has given his estimate for the BF.
With the addition of the info for what you now tow you should be well on the way to a solution.

If your F150 Has a tow rating of at least 7500 pounds it would handle more than the 600 pound tongue weight estimated by Robert ( per J2807)

If you don't need to know those numbers are for your present trailer, then why would you need them for the BF?
Floyd,

The hitch weight of the 5.0ta is 600 lbs with a dry weight at just under 3900 lbs. while it appears that the basic, published numbers would work for me, I was just trying to generate a little real world discussion of my proposed combination. Thamnks for your input. Itís appreciated very much.
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