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Old 01-16-2013, 02:11 AM   #15
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Here it is. You need a gooseneck hitch to use it. They're friendly to talk to, but I couldn't see the sense in trying to get something to fit the scamp hitch.

http://www.andersenhitches.com/Catal...onnection.aspx

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:02 PM   #16
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Here it is. You need a gooseneck hitch to use it. They're friendly to talk to, but I couldn't see the sense in trying to get something to fit the scamp hitch.

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Thanks Jared. I had seen that before, but it slipped my mind.

You don't actually need a gooseneck hitch to use it. One version sits on the box floor and is tied down to a "gooseneck" ball mount point, but the other mounts to on-floor rails, like many fifth-wheel hitches. For the Tacoma which is the subject of this thread, the right version is the one which mounts to rails (which can be supported by frame brackets), because the "gooseneck" version puts all the load on the box floor.

Although Andersen sells a coupler to convert the kingpin of fifth-wheel trailers, there's no need to use it with the Scamp 19', which already has a coupler for a ball... but the size still needs to be matched.

I don't see any indication that it has anything but a 2-5/16" ball available, so if it is not a generic stud-mounted ball, it may be necessary to convert the Scamp 19' to a 2-5/16" coupler. That conversion would be easy, have no adverse consequences (other than the cost to do it and small weight increase), and it would be a good opportunity to do a better job of coupler mounting than the factory setup.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:06 PM   #17
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I spoke to them. They said they would custom make a 2" ball for $40 (iirc). I still say to make the scamp a proper fifth wheel and quit adapting everything to it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:16 PM   #18
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I have the same uneasy feeling with my Subaru hitch. Sometimes you just have to believe.
Hey, Raz!
Can you explain just what we're looking at here?

I'm very interested in the way hitch receivers are attached to different vehicles and rarely encounter actual pictures, but they're too close-in for me to figure out what's what...

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:33 AM   #19
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My subaru hitch required the shield to be trimmed away on one side, and put on the bottom of the hitch, on the other. There's nothing between the receiver and the frame.
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Hey, Raz!
Can you explain just what we're looking at here?

I'm very interested in the way hitch receivers are attached to different vehicles and rarely encounter actual pictures, but they're too close-in for me to figure out what's what...

Thanks, I hope!

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The Subaru Forester has two tubes that run underneath from about the rear seat to the back of the vehicle . On a truck, they would be the frame. When the bumper is removed, the open ends are exposed (first picture below). After the mufflers are removed, the hitch is installed by fishing bolts through the end of each tube (second picture below) and out the bottom. The problem you are having is because the pictures I have shown are 1) after and then before installation and 2) opposite sides. Standing on your head might help as might identifying the heat shield and the rubber muffler hanger in each original photo. Four bolts ( two per side) through the sheet metal tubes are what fasten the hitch to the vehicle. Fortune favors the bold . Raz
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The Subaru Forester has two tubes that run underneath from about the rear seat to the back of the vehicle . On a truck, they would be the frame. When the bumper is removed, the open ends are exposed (first picture below). After the mufflers are removed, the hitch is installed by fishing bolts through the end of each tube (second picture below) and out the bottom. The problem you are having is because the pictures I have shown are 1) after and then before installation and 2) opposite sides. Standing on your head might help as might identifying the heat shield and the rubber muffler hanger in each original photo. Four bolts ( two per side) through the sheet metal tubes are what fasten the hitch to the vehicle. Fortune favors the bold . Raz
Did you run outside and take that all apart just for me, you big ol' hunka hunka sweetie pie, you? ...

I think I'm starting to get the picture...do you mean that the hitch has a couple of arms that slide into the channels for their full length, and it's those that the bolts go to? I'd love to see pics of the before-installed hitch itself, hint, hint...

I can wait if you haven't gotten to the "put it back together" stage yet!

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Did you run outside and take that all apart just for me, you big ol' hunka hunka sweetie pie, you? ...

I think I'm starting to get the picture...do you mean that the hitch has a couple of arms that slide into the channels for their full length, and it's those that the bolts go to? I'd love to see pics of the before-installed hitch itself, hint, hint...

I can wait if you haven't gotten to the "put it back together" stage yet!

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Pictures are from last June. The hitch is the black thing with the two bolts in it.
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Pictures are from last June. The hitch is the black thing with the two bolts in it.
Yeah- I was kidding!

This is the only pic showing a "black thing with two bolts in it"- do those bolts go through to whatever it is that "slides into the tubes" that you mentioned earlier?

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Yeah- I was kidding!

This is the only pic showing a "black thing with two bolts in it"- do those bolts go through to whatever it is that "slides into the tubes" that you mentioned earlier?

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Nope. You feed a piece of wire with a coil at the end through holes in the bottom of the tube and out the back, thread the bolts into the coil one at a time and pull them into the tube and they hang down. When all 4 bolts are in place you lift the hitch up and thread nuts on the bolts. Tighten, torque and you're done. Removing the rear bumper and mufflers was the hard part. If you are really interested, etrailer has a video although they do it the hard way. Raz
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Nope. You feed a piece of wire with a coil at the end through holes in the bottom of the tube and out the back, thread the bolts into the coil one at a time and pull them into the tube and they hang down. When all 4 bolts are in place you lift the hitch up and thread nuts on the bolts. Tighten, torque and you're done. Removing the rear bumper and mufflers was the hard part. If you are really interested, etrailer has a video although they do it the hard way. Raz
This is the way the factory hitch is meant to be installed???? Yikes!

I'd love to see the E-trailer vid- got a link to the one you mean?

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This is the way the factory hitch is meant to be installed???? Yikes!

I'd love to see the E-trailer vid- got a link to the one you mean?

Thanks!

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The factory hitch bolts to the 3 studs surrounding the tube with a stiffener that feeds into the tube. The after market hitches all bolt to the bottom of the tube. While I removed the bumper, the etrailer folks place the bolts in the tube a little differently..... Don't forget to make pop corn.

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Thanks, Raz!

VERY interesting...and I'll bet it would be even more interesting if I'd been able to get the sound to work. (Hubby's been fiddling with the computer speakers again )
But I could pretty much see how the Curt goes on. I think both your and their methods of getting the bolts on are pretty clever!

You mention that the OEM hitch comes with a "stiffener"- what does that look/install like? (I'd look it up myself except I'm not a member at the Subaru site.)

Are you at all concerned about not having that stiffener? I know your Trillium's less than 2,000 and doesn't need a w/d, but still...those four bolts/washers do look as if there'd be considerable concentration of the load at those points.

Thanks again...

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