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Old 03-17-2013, 01:21 PM   #309
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Joseph, where are you getting that from... I didn't hear much of an increase on the Rav4 forum.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #310
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3rd row springs will eek out even more height, and increase payload cap by 300 lbs!
Payload capacity is based on a lot of factors and cannot be "increased" by the addition of springs/airbags etc.

It may be that the load borne by the rear axle is so increased, but only as a percentage of the original payload number.

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Joseph, where are you getting that from... I didn't hear much of an increase on the Rav4 forum.
The info is in the owner's manual, for 2009, pg 466-467. Note the bottom line on pg 466, and note#7 on page 467:

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Note that actual payload increase is 330 lbs. Also referenced on pg 199, 200, and 204.



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Interesting!

I think I get what you're saying... Is it that when they put that third row seat in, they use the coil springs you're recommending?

That's a useful thing to know, all right, if only for folks who bought the vehicle without that option!

I don't see the vehicle's stated gross vehicle weight number- do you have that?

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possibly, but I was just doing some searches on the rav4 forum and honestly...I added airbags and I might upgrade to another tow hevicle in another year. Possibly a pickup or something with a more solid rear end. After seeing the posts about adding a truck box to the backside of trailers causeing the rear to move around... I dont want to add more weight in my trunk, which means loading stuff in my backseat...Im thinking maybe a dual cab with a box in the bed of the truck to hold the extra stuff.
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Interesting!

I think I get what you're saying... Is it that when they put that third row seat in, they use the coil springs you're recommending?

That's a useful thing to know, all right, if only for folks who bought the vehicle without that option!

I don't see the vehicle's stated gross vehicle weight number- do you have that?

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Yes, thats correct. Only the 3rd row option model uses the springs I suggested. The 3rd row model is VERY rare...

The GVWR is in the door jam of the individual vehicle. I have not seen a third row model, but I assume it has a higher GVWR in the door than the 5 seater...

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Old 03-17-2013, 03:27 PM   #316
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Deryk,

We've added a plastic rear bumper box and two 4'x5"x5" fence posts to the rear of our trailer without any ill effects. The reason it works well is that we do not overload these storage units.

One post contains a long sewer hose, another post contains a bunch of plastic pipes for our awning, and the big box contains our hose, power cord, blocks and a small tool box.

Additionally we have 5 plactic boxes attached under the trailer to the floor. Two of them are fair sized bins on drawer slides and 3 are smaller boxes. They all contain necessary but rarely used items like a 50' construction extension cord, and misc tools. Again none are particularly heavy.

I do think they help keep our tongue lighter than most at 200 lbs. We do have an anti-sway bar but have towed for 5,000 miles or so without an anti-sway bar without any negative effects.

We once placed a generator in the rear plastic bumper box on a non-fiberglass trailer and were able to induce sway. I would not suggest that anyone heavily load the bumper but a light load seems to be no issue for us.

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Norm, Chandler said the rear receiver is rated for 200lbs...I don't mind the generator traveling with me in my truck but the 2 25ft hoses and leveling blocks and all
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After seeing the posts about adding a truck box to the backside of trailers causeing the rear to move around... I dont want to add more weight in my trunk, which means loading stuff in my backseat...Im thinking maybe a dual cab with a box in the bed of the truck to hold the extra stuff.
or you could save yourself some money and just buy a rubber maid box that is low enough to fit under your trailer when your at a campsite but it contains all your hoses, blocks, connections, electrical cords etc and it rides inside the trailer right over the axle while in transit. Its small enough that I can step over inside the trailer and it doesnt prevent me from opening doors etc. Works well to adjust tongue weight if I need to pull with water in the rear tanks, just move the box forward to put a bit more weight back on the tongue. Only problem is one needs to be a little selective in regards to what you really need or dont need to bring along on each trip and how frequently you are actually ever going to need to use what ever it is.
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I do think they help keep our tongue lighter than most at 200 lbs. We do have an anti-sway bar but have towed for 5,000 miles or so without an anti-sway bar without any negative effects.
Norm, am assuming the 5000 miles you towed without a sway bar wasnt with your current set-up/trailer is that correct? The reason I ask is I recall last winter after you had a bit of scary experience with your trailer that you indicated here that your current trailer came with a anti-sway bar.
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or you could save yourself some money and just buy a rubber maid box that is low enough to fit under your trailer when your at a campsite but it contains all your hoses, blocks, connections, electrical cords etc and it rides inside the trailer right over the axle while in transit. Its small enough that I can step over inside the trailer and it doesnt prevent me from opening doors etc. Works well to adjust tongue weight if I need to pull with water in the rear tanks, just move the box forward to put a bit more weight back on the tongue. Only problem is one needs to be a little selective in regards to what you really need or dont need to bring along on each trip and how frequently you are actually ever going to need to use what ever it is.
Awesome idea!
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Carol.,

We've used 3 similarly sized and weight trailers all towed by the same tow vehicle.

None of the trailers came with an anti sway bar.

We towed them all initially without an anti sway bar including a trip from FL to NH with the Scamp 16, a round trip to FL with a Casita 16 and numerous trips with the Sunline 15.5, this easily adds up to 5000 miles.

We asked on the Sunline forum if we should add an anti sway bar and were told we wouldn't need it to control sway but might like it in an unspecified emergency. Since we knew nothing and it only cost about $50 we bought and installed one.

We've had two situations where we have had small emergencies, neither sway caused, where we were glad we had the anti sway bar. I have written about both on this site.

Hopevthis clarifies
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