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Old 07-19-2012, 06:48 AM   #15
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In 1947 towing a 1939 Kozy Koach trailer with an 85 hp 1937 Ford from Florida to Michigan a wheel on the trailer came off while in motion. Apparently the nuts weren't quite tight enough allowing some "shucking" back & forth on the wheel. Finally the nuts tore right through the bolt holes. My dad burned his hand on the wheel when trying to pick it up. In those almost all trailers had only one axle as ours did. When the wheel came off, that side dropped and ran for a short time on the brake drum. Ground a flat spot on the drum. Finally got it taken care of and got back to MI without furether ado. Glad I was only a kid and not old enough to be driving.
Cool story! You're the kind of person I'd like to camp next to!
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:00 AM   #16
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"Torque on the lug nuts" My husband will be excited to add another thing to his list of things to check before we set off. As a former nuclear submariner, he approaches every departure as an new cruise of the Atlantic fleet. I'm surprised he hasn't made salute whenever he passes by.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:35 AM   #17
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I am a firm believer that the reason I came through it alright was the beast of a vehicle I was driving at the time.
I felt a slight shudder and looked in the mirror to see the trailer leaning hard towards the drivers side,the Land Cruiser didn't seem to understand why I was pulling over? The wheel passed us on the left and I never saw it again!

I will never tow with a vehicle I feel is just enough and risk bigger problems,I want the vehicle to always be in charge if possible.

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The seven of us were in a Savana 1500 that has been converted to a travel van. It out masses the trailer by almost 3 to 1, but once it started wagging around, we sure could feel the effect. It never felt like we were out of control, but it was scary. The fact that we stayed on the road probably has a lot to do with my wife's six years of bus driving experience.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:37 AM   #18
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It would take a lot to spin a Savana around! They are very stable. Fierce crosswinds get your attention, but it takes a lot to lose control. I've had 4 GM passenger vans, three 2500's and one 3500. They are great machines if you don't care how much fuel you burn. The interior storage is cavernous!
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:08 AM   #19
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I use these with my five spoke aluminum wheels. PLENTY of depth for the lug.

Americana Trailer Wheel Lug Nut - 13/16" Diameter - Stainless Steel - 1/2" - 20 Americana Accessories and Parts AM90070

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Old 07-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #20
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I use these with my five spoke aluminum wheels. PLENTY of depth for the lug.

Americana Trailer Wheel Lug Nut - 13/16" Diameter - Stainless Steel - 1/2" - 20 Americana Accessories and Parts AM90070

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I purchased something very similar from Canadian Tire. Each is one piece of chromed steel. The bolts in the link look like they are an assembly of a couple of parts. I paid $75 for twenty of them. That's enough for two of my three trailers.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:20 PM   #21
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I use these with my five spoke aluminum wheels. PLENTY of depth for the lug.

Americana Trailer Wheel Lug Nut - 13/16" Diameter - Stainless Steel - 1/2" - 20 Americana Accessories and Parts AM90070

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Just an FYI in case folks don't know it, if you are going to use those style of nuts, be certain to use a "proper fitting" 6 point ( not 12 pt ) socket on those. That outer covering of stainless steel is put on there for cosmetic purposes, and a poor fitting or a 12 point socket can round that off, then you'll have a another issue to deal with to get it off.

Personally, I changed those out on my camper and put solid lug nuts on it. But again, if you have a correct fitting 6 point socket, you'll likely be okay with the clad ones.
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If more people followed that advice there would be a lot fewer towing incidents.
Actually I prefer that the vehicle be in good repair and properly sized and equipped, so that the driver is in control.
I've seen several trailers (with their tow vehicle's in charge) upside down in the ditch, every one a fullsized truck or suv.

Of course the TV should be adequate for the task assigned,but
there's more to it than mere mass.
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but there's more to it than mere mass.
Momentum = Mass x Velocity, if I recall.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:41 AM   #24
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one thing lots of people fail to realize is that the tapered holes in wheels do eventually wear out when wheels are removed lots the angle of the taped will change and cause the wheel nuts to not properly hold even when properly torqued, this is why i don't like using older wheels and wheel nuts on any thing i own. Aluminum wheels are obviously worse than steel for this as they are softer.
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As you can see, there is not allot to get a wrench on.
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As you can see, there is not allot to get a wrench on.
Cool! Theft proof lug nuts.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:48 AM   #27
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You could try one of these. They are made to deal with with the tight lug pocket problem.

Canadian Tire - Thin Wall Lug Wrench with Sockets customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings

There are also thin-wall sockets available that will fit into your existing wrench or thin-wall sockets to fit a 1/2" drive wrench. Some have a plastic sleeve on the outside to protect the lug pockets of your wheels.

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Actually I prefer that the vehicle be in good repair and properly sized and equipped, so that the driver is in control.
I've seen several trailers (with their tow vehicle's in charge) upside down in the ditch, every one a fullsized truck or suv.

Of course the TV should be adequate for the task assigned,but
there's more to it than mere mass.
I didn't say that a larger vehicle would fix stupid.

Pulling with a larger vehicle will be less strain on the vehicle and makes it easier to remain in control. Put 8,000lbs behind a 1/2 ton gas engine truck every day and see how long it lasts when compared to a 1 ton diesel pulling the same load. Then see which one handles the load better.
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