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Old 07-25-2012, 10:43 AM   #29
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You could try one of these. They are made to deal with with the tight lug pocket problem.

Canadian Tire - Thin Wall Lug Wrench with Sockets customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings

There are also thin-wall sockets available that will fit into your existing wrench or thin-wall sockets to fit a 1/2" drive wrench. Some have a plastic sleeve on the outside to protect the lug pockets of your wheels.

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Longer lug nuts is my solution. They are so long that they almost look wrong. I will post a picture later.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:40 PM   #30
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Another problem we have with those two piece chrome plated nuts is corrosion getting under the chrome and swelling them to the point where the proper socket won't fit. Maybe its just a winter salt problem....

When I started driving, all my vehicles (Chryco products ) had left hand threads on the left side of the vehicles wheel nuts. Wheels never loosened off.
My SIL borrowed our Hi-Low some years ago. One left wheel (tandem axle) made a quick departure just as he was entering a service station/restaurant. It broke off the black water plumbing on its way. When he got stopped and saw/smelled the problem he was so embarrassed that he started back down the road on three tires until the tank drained completely. Then he installed the spare (swiping nuts from other rims) and headed to Canadian Tire....
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:28 PM   #31
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This is a picture of the wheel with one of the new lug nuts, for comparison. Lots of nut to get the tire iron on.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:05 PM   #32
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Didn't Kenny Rogers have a hit song called "You Picked A Fine Time To Leave Me,Loose Wheel"?
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I don't have the proper emoticon for it, but my wife and I are rolling on the floor! Heh heh....
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:39 PM   #34
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Didn't Kenny Rogers have a hit song called "You Picked A Fine Time To Leave Me,Loose Wheel"?
Almost! Find it on the Car Talk Car Tunes, Volume 1: America's Best Disrespectful Car Songs, track 10 of 21, "Loose Wheel"/Simply Weasels. This CD is a hoot! It is on my pile of CD's to take along and keep us alert and entertained on long trips. Some other tracks: Duct Tape Madrigal in C Maj., Autoservice Hell, Slow in Left Lane, You Can't Get There from Here in Jersey, My Bloody Yugo, and Mid-life Chrysler!
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:25 PM   #35
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Didn't Kenny Rogers have a hit song called "You Picked A Fine Time To Leave Me,Loose Wheel"?


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Old 08-01-2015, 11:37 PM   #36
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Correct me if my memory is wrong. I seem to remember that trailer wheels are generally lug centric while automobile and small truck wheels are hub centric. If my memory is right slightly off center wheel would cause vibration that might not be felt in the tow, but would cause the lugs to loosen.
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:03 AM   #37
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I think that they come in both flavors in all applications up to heavy truck tires. Of course if the wheels center bore was to small for the hub it wouldn't fit correctly, or if you used stepped lug nuts on a tapered lug wheel there would be problems.
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if the wheels center bore was to small for the hub it wouldn't fit correctly, .
That kind of incorrect fit should be obvious even to those least savvy in vehicle maintenance, I think.
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Old 08-03-2015, 10:06 AM   #39
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Steel wheels have that set of ridges around the bolt circle that sets through actual holes slightly away from the hub. This gives the wheel a space to "set" the clamping torque by flexing the wheel center.
Because of this the lugs are less likely to back off after torquing.
The aluminum wheels cannot do this and you have to re torque them to make sure that they are tight.


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This one had Ford Pinto sourced "Sprints" on it from the first time it left my driveway until it was sold years later, no problems encountered...
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Steel wheels have that set of ridges around the bolt circle that sets through actual holes slightly away from the hub. This gives the wheel a space to "set" the clamping torque by flexing the wheel center.
Because of this the lugs are less likely to back off after torquing.
The aluminum wheels cannot do this and you have to re torque them to make sure that they are tight.


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I "retorque" every time I rotate tires.
Purpose made trailer wheels are flat across the bolt circle and lay flat against the hub.
They are no more likely to work loose than an old school steel wheel which you describe. Same goes for aluminum wheels.

Sorry,I really don't buy the flex clamping theory.

Also...Trailer wheels, like most automotive wheels, have tapered lug seats which obviates the hubcentric concerns.
There are exceptions of course, like light Ford pickups a few years ago.
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If you really look at the typical steel wheel you will see the raised porting and the "coined" raised part the lug fits into.
Look at the hub and you will also see the marks are not flat all around the hub.
The raised area acts as bellville washers to load the fastener and to help keep the clamping force on the wheel.
Almost all steel wheels have this feature since WWII. Very heavy steel wheels with more lugs do not have this since the wheel center is very much thicker.

Look carefully at the back of this wheel.



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Without this small offset the wheels would loosen easily and fail.
This was discovered during WW 2 and almost all stamped drop center steel wheels since have this feature
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