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Old 04-06-2016, 03:27 PM   #15
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Rebecca, If memory serves your travel trailer selection has a real world weight of about 3,000 lbs...if you add the weight of passengers and additional cargo you might be pushing the limit.....just a thought.

Confirm tow limits with ford before you buy.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:41 PM   #16
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Looking at the Escape capacities on the 2016 even if you are pulling 3500lbs you still have room to add another 500lbs in the Escape before hitting the GCWR. I believe the Scamp 16 also tends to run closer to 2500lbs loaded than 3000
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:46 PM   #17
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Real world weight of a Scamp 16 is more like 2500-2600 pounds. The Escape 2.0L Ecoboost is a good match, as are any number of similar alternatives with a 3500 pound tow rating: Chevy Equinox/GMC Terrain V6, Jeep Cherokee, Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0L turbo, Kia Sorento 2.0L turbo. Sadly, Toyota and Honda now require you to step up to a larger 3-row SUV to get a similar rating, unless you can find a used RAV4 V6 with the tow package.
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Old 04-06-2016, 05:21 PM   #18
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Ford options

We have been looking at the same issue with Ford.

My Brother-in-law was a Ford Exec. so we will get a Ford as there is a huge discount available.

It seems that the 2008 Ford Freestyle was not a great choice but it is what we have so it pulls our 16 Scamp. Weight was a key reason we chose Scamp over other FG units as the max the Freestyle can pull is 2K lbs. After the frame cracked last year along the add on receiver hitch mounting points we are thinking we may need to replace the TV.

It would be great not to worry too much about weight in our Scamp and could use more room in the TV and add a screen room etc. with our traveling gear.

We considered the Escape as we do not want a Pick-em up, but still seems limited in weight.

Looks like a better deal is the Explorer.

Required Equipment
Includes items that must be installed.* Your New Vehicle
Limited Warranty (see your dealer for a copy) may be
voided if you tow without them.
Explorer
For trailers over 2,000 pounds and under 3,000 pounds
with 2.3L EcoBoost

engine Class II Trailer Tow Package
For trailers over 2,000 pounds and under 5,000 pounds
with 3.5L V6 engine Class III Trailer Tow Package


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Old 04-06-2016, 06:54 PM   #19
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As far as I know the Escape is rated two ways 3500 with the factory tow package with the electric stabilization modules and whatever else the package includes and 2000 lbs with out the factory package.
The escape is sold as the Kuga in Europe and is rated there at 4629 lbs. ( this is with the 2.0 liter Diesel I believe)
Again this is with the complete towing package including the hitch and electronics ( perhaps any extra cooling etc as well).
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:16 PM   #20
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I recall that someone on this forum has an Escape with 2L egoboost... er, ecoboost!... and wrote that it seemed very capable. Can't remember who it was now, but he said he was towing as fast as 70 mph.

There was also a discussion where someone had trouble getting the wiring fixed correctly for a brake controller, but I think it was resolved eventually. I'm sure a search for these threads would turn them up.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:28 PM   #21
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I put a brake controller on my 2016 and had no issues, took me about 2 hours to run the 12v and brake controller lines to the hitch. Hardest part was getting through the firewall plug in the dash.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:53 PM   #22
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I found the article on the brake controller that Frank put in, it is full of pictures, the problem he had was the plug he purchased was defective and he had to replace it, and after that everything worked fine.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #23
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I found the article on the brake controller that Frank put in, it is full of pictures, the problem he had was the plug he purchased was defective and he had to replace it, and after that everything worked fine.
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Oh, ok. That's good news. I didn't remember the exact resolution. Glad it doesn't reflect on the vehicle after all.

As far as power and handling, I would not have any doubts about using the Escape with 2L turbo for a 16' Scamp or Casita, or similar.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:20 AM   #24
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I am Towing my 16 foot Casita, dry but loaded, 4 people in car, with my brand new Ford Escape SE 2.0 liter engine with Factory tow package (rated up to 3500 lbs.) I have plenty of power and I'm averaging a little more than 18 miles to the gallon.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:08 PM   #25
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We have a 2014 Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost FWD with the factory tow package. We currently have a 2014 Scamp13 trailer but wanted to have sufficient power to tow a 16ft trailer if we decide that we want to move up.

On a recent trip to California, we averaged 22-23 mpg towing at 60 mph. We went up and over Donner pass with the cruise control set on 60 mph ...... No problem!

Diesel engines and turbocharged engines produce high torque at low RPMs. That torque is what moves an FGRV rig at a steady pace into a headwind and/or up a steep grade. For towing, I have come to believe that torque (at towing RPMs) is far more important than the number of cylinders or the rated horsepower of an engine. (Horsepower is used to accelerate a rig for passing another vehicle or onto an on ramp). There are internet references that talk about horsepower versus torque.

I have little doubt that the 2.0L Ecoboost will tow most FGRVs without much problem.

As always, YMMV.

Good luck with your search and decision. 😊

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Old 04-24-2016, 09:31 AM   #26
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I think that the Ford Escape with the 2.0L EcoBoost is a good prospect.
One very important issue is that the vehicle needs to be ordered with the factory option for towing.
The equipment can be added later, but it will still be rated 2000 lbs and not 3500 lbs.
The equipment must be setup and programmed in the factory build and as far as I know the dealers cannot accomplish this later, even if the parts are purchased and added.
So..... look for option 536 on the build sheet.
While the kit can be added to the other models the 3500 lb option is dealer installed only. 3500 lb toe limit and 350 lb hitch weight. WDH is also allowable.
This setup has the added module to activate the trailer electronic stabilization and takes care of the trailer lights hookup for the 4 pin plug.
Since this is based on the Kuga sold in Europe the stabilization is required over there.
Towing capacity over there (for the 2.0L diesel) is 4629 lbs and the 85% is 2880.
The 85% rating of the tow car weight is because extra training and experience is required over that amount.
It is comforting that the 3500 lb rating is using SAE J2807 so you can be fairly confident that it will do what they say it will.
My only point is to get the option factory installed because most dealers have no idea what they are talking about and will happily sell you the package with the stickers on the hitch and it is not the same car.
If I am incorrect then pleas let the others know!
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:00 PM   #27
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I think that the Ford Escape with the 2.0L EcoBoost is a good prospect.
One very important issue is that the vehicle needs to be ordered with the factory option for towing.
The equipment can be added later, but it will still be rated 2000 lbs and not 3500 lbs.
The equipment must be setup and programmed in the factory build and as far as I know the dealers cannot accomplish this later, even if the parts are purchased and added.
So..... look for option 536 on the build sheet.
While the kit can be added to the other models the 3500 lb option is dealer installed only. 3500 lb toe limit and 350 lb hitch weight. WDH is also allowable.
This setup has the added module to activate the trailer electronic stabilization and takes care of the trailer lights hookup for the 4 pin plug.
Since this is based on the Kuga sold in Europe the stabilization is required over there.
Towing capacity over there (for the 2.0L diesel) is 4629 lbs and the 85% is 2880.
The 85% rating of the tow car weight is because extra training and experience is required over that amount.
It is comforting that the 3500 lb rating is using SAE J2807 so you can be fairly confident that it will do what they say it will.
My only point is to get the option factory installed because most dealers have no idea what they are talking about and will happily sell you the package with the stickers on the hitch and it is not the same car.
If I am incorrect then pleas let the others know!
if the escape is ordered with this package domyou need to specify how many wi44res need to be in the trailer hitch cable?
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:15 AM   #28
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Sadly, unless Ford has changed since the 2014 models, you only get a 4-pin flat connector.
Considering that the receiver hitch is a class 2, I thought it was strange that they didn't supply
a 7-pin round.

In the 2014, you also didn't get the pigtail connector under the dash for more easily connecting
an electric brake controller. I think that is supplied in the F-150 trucks. I used a Hopkins
Multi-tow adapter (available at Northern Tool and others) to adapt the 4-pin flat to a combo
7-pin round + 4-pin flat and then ran a separate 12v "hot wire" up to the engine compartment.

The rounded driver's cockpit limits the location(s) where you can mount most brake controllers.
There is an airbag behind the panel in front of the driver's right knee. Even if you could avoid drilling into the airbag, any controller mounted there would be propelled into your right knee/leg
upon airbag inflation. Perhaps the better spot is at the bottom of the ODB2 connector door on
the lower left? Either that or use the Prodigy RF controller that mounts on the trailer tongue and
only requires a small remote inside the car that connects to a cigarette lighter for power.

Lots of power and good MPGs with the Escape ..... just a couple of quirks to deal with.

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