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Old 11-26-2018, 11:54 AM   #43
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The original question concerned a Honda Pilot....now we are discussing weight, mass, wind resistance and stability....next try ft. Lbs of torque, rear end gear ratios, weight distribution, sway controllers, trailer brakes etc and really confuse the issue.

My point was that the Honda Ridgeline is a wannabe “truck”.
I’d rather have my receiver hitch connected to a truck frame than
sheet metal.

Question: is the Pilot built on a frame or is it unibody ?

Toyota 4 Runner/frame....FJ Landcruiser/frame...
Ford Explorer/frame....Etc.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:17 PM   #44
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From Chicago Tribune review:


For 2011, the Explorer officially becomes a "crossover," now based on a car platform — the Ford Taurus — rather than a truck platform. And, like the Taurus, the Explorer now comes standard as front-wheel-drive, with optional all-wheel-drive.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:12 PM   #45
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I do believe the unibody/frame discussion is pertinent to my original question.Not sure where the Ford Exploder comes in but hey I can appreciate a good body uni or otherwise.
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Here is a link that explains it all:

https://www.autotrader.com/car-shopp...ed-cros-245716
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Not sure where the Ford Exploder comes in

I think Uplander probably meant to say Expedition, not Explorer.
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Glenn, You are correct ....I did want to say Expedition (my hunting partner owns one)...I am a die hard Toyota owner (FJ Landcruiser and Tacoma).

Most of these discussions are started by folks new to trailer towing and they do need help. In some cases they are trying to use an economy gas saver they already own to tow a travel trailer.....and yes I know a pilot is not an economy car.

I tend to favor tow vehicles that have frames and enough towing power to exceed the minimum required. I currently live in the heart of the Great Smoky Mountains and have towed travel trailers all over this great country from the Adirondack and Green Mountains in the east to the Rocky Mountains in the West. Experience has taught me you can never have too much reserve towing capacity when facing mountain climbs and a heavy tow vehicle helps when descending the mountains.
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I live in BC, which is all mountains, including the Rocky Mountains. I also live in an urban area. I have no desire to have more "truck" than I need, nor desire to own a truck at all.

My RAV4 is sufficient in all regards for towing my Escape 17B, and I can park it at Safeway or Walmart.
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Here is a link that explains it all:

https://www.autotrader.com/car-shopp...ed-cros-245716
Like so many articles of its kind, it oversimplifies. Choose a body-on-frame for towing and hauling, it concludes. Towing what? Hauling how much?

Payloads of unibody minivans and crossovers can exceed some full-size pickups, so if you don't pay attention to the details, you many end up with less than you thought. The big advantage of body-on-frame is its modularity. Swap our springs, rear axle, shocks, even frames and you can significantly increase the base payload. For the most part, you can't do that with unibody vehicles.

During Thanksgiving I got to experience riding in two different full-size, 4WD, crew cab pickups, an F-150 and a Tundra. Huge footprints, roomy and well-appointed cabins, but the ride quality was still noticeably truckish compared to my crossover SUV.
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Glenn I was referring to you about the exploder. UPLANDER? what trailer do you tow?I assume that a truck is the best for most larger trailers.A lot of but not all the trailers towed from this forum are smaller fiberglass.I have read this tread over a few times. Tow Vehicle & Trailer combos - POST INFO
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Glenn I was referring to you about the exploder. l

And, I was responding to Uplander, post #43.
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My point was that the Honda Ridgeline is a wannabe “truck”.
I’d rather have my receiver hitch connected to a truck frame than
sheet metal.

Question: is the Pilot built on a frame or is it unibody ?

Toyota 4 Runner/frame....FJ Landcruiser/frame...
Ford Explorer/frame....Etc.
The Pilot is the SUV that the Ridgeline is based on, and in turn the Pilot was based on the Odyssey minivan... All Unibody, FWD/AWD.

re: Ford Explorers, as of the last redesign, they are now FWD Unibody. the classic Explorer was built on the Ranger pickup chassis.

For towing light trailers like Casitas, Scamps, a sturdy unibody is obviously adequate, look how many people do it with vehicles like Pilot/Ridgeline, Highlanders, etc.
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The Pilot is the SUV that the Ridgeline is based on, and in turn the Pilot was based on the Odyssey minivan... All Unibody, FWD/AWD.

re: Ford Explorers, as of the last redesign, they are now FWD Unibody. the classic Explorer was built on the Ranger pickup chassis.

For towing light trailers like Casitas, Scamps, a sturdy unibody is obviously adequate, look how many people do it with vehicles like Pilot/Ridgeline, Highlanders, etc.
Or as my Father use to say “ Just because everyone does it doesn’t make it right “
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Or as my Father use to say “ Just because everyone does it doesn’t make it right “

Isn't that what everyone's parents used to say?
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Or as my Father use to say “ Just because everyone does it doesn’t make it right “
No, but it doesn't make it wrong, either. Towing within manufacturer's specs and in accordance with applicable motor vehicle laws and commonly accepted best practices does make it right.

A Casita 17 towed by a 5000/500# rated crossover with a Class III hitch and working electric brakes appears be a go on all counts.

Are you suggesting there is something objectively wrong with a properly equipped Honda Pilot towing a Casita 17?
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