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Old 06-19-2013, 07:23 AM   #127
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Boy, nice looking rig! How does it do on steep hills and mountainous terrain?

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Old 06-19-2013, 07:31 AM   #128
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It does better than my Econoline E-350 with the 5.4L. The escape has a better weight to power ratio and more gears with a flat torque curve and alot better mpg's. With the 6 speed trans, even if it does kick down on hills, the rpm's dont screem. Cant wait untill manufactures start coming out with 8 and 9 speed transmissions.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:34 AM   #129
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Boy, that is good to know. Tell me, what does your trailer weigh? Not dry weight, but what you figure you're towing when going camping?

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Old 06-19-2013, 08:38 AM   #130
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3500lbs is the max (loaded) rating for my trailer. unloaded (dry) is 2795lbs. I tow around 3200lbs when I go camping. I have towed it at max with no problem even on hills.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:43 AM   #131
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That is absolutely fascinating Daniel. We should add that Titanium Escape to vehicles we are considering. I wonder how it would do pulling a boat out of a steep launch? That is one of the reasons we are looking primarily at 4wd vehicles with primary rear drive. Hmmmm....

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Old 06-19-2013, 12:02 PM   #132
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Yes I have 4WD because some norhtern Michigan camp sites are a little rough and morning dew on the grass willl disable many a 2 wheel drive. The 5.4 Liter V8 Econoline only had 225HP/ 286T (had to be high rpm to get that)and weight was 5000LB. The Escape has 240HP/ 270T (@ low rpm) and weight is 3700lb. So half the engine with 15 more HP and only 16 lbs less of torque and weigh's 1000lbs less. Did I mention twice the gas millage ...
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:13 PM   #133
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I pull the trailer out of a wet grass backyard with out wheel spin. The Escape is labled as smart "4WD" not "AWD". In the rain you can floor it and it hooks up and will show where the power is going and where wheel spin is and account for it.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:18 PM   #134
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The egg we're looking at it the 17' Casita Sirit Deluxe, which their website says has a dry weight of 2,480#s and 365#s of tongue weight. That sounds like less than what you're hauling Daniel, so we're gonna have to test drive one of those. One of the things I really like about them is the mileage is so much better than most of the stuff we're been considering. Thanks!

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Old 06-19-2013, 12:27 PM   #135
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Yes, I am towing more than you. Remember I use trailer brakes and a weight distribution hitch with anti sway. I probly has 400lbs tongue weight. My profile pic shows how the trailer will ride(no sag) . The realistic MPG's numbers I have seen are; Mpg's towing 11-16. Mpg's un-towing 21-27.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:30 PM   #136
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I use trailer brakes and have sway control on my trailer. When I look at the 2014 Titanium, they only come with a Class II hitch. So I would need to get an aftermarket Class IV? How did you get your Escape wired for a 7 pin RV plug?

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Old 06-19-2013, 02:41 PM   #137
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Daniel, Did you get the factory tow package, and if so, what is included, besides a receiver?
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I would consider towing my trailer with one of those. However, my 16 footer from KZ is only 350 lb tongue weight when loaded. Isn't the Ford Escape hitch receiver spec'd at 3500 lb tow/350 lb tongue weight? If so, have you considered having the receiver modified so it attaches more securely? A good welding shop could ensure that it won't separate. Anyway, I hope you'll crawl underneath every so often and inspect it to make sure it is not tearing the Escape's underside anywhere or damaging the receiver.
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I use trailer brakes and have sway control on my trailer. When I look at the 2014 Titanium, they only come with a Class II hitch. So I would need to get an aftermarket Class IV?
Class 4 is over 5000 pounds, and up to 10,000 pounds, gross trailer weight; I don't see why any trailer within the Escape's 3500 pound rating would need that.

Frank, you don't mention a weight-distributing hitch (WDH) but Daniel is using one (an Anderson No-Sway). Any commercially available WDH will require a 2" hitch receiver, which is usually a Class 3 (or higher) product. If the Escape only comes from the factory with a 1.25" receiver (which is likely) and a WDH is used, an aftermarket 2" receiver would be required.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:04 PM   #140
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Funny thing today, called Scamp because i needed to order a few parts for "trashy egg" and we talked about my towing vehicle, he mentioned that that is exactly the car they recommend..

Did everything consider a Diesel engine for towing? I would go the next time with a VW Diesel, i think the 42miles/gallon are awesome and the more on torque should do it.
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