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Old 07-23-2013, 02:11 PM   #155
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I'm getting the tow package with ours. It also includes some wiring making it easier to do the 7 pin stuff. Plus I like the sway control it includes.

Basically I would suggest you will get a lot better deal in terms of space for weight and aerodynamics with a fiberglass travel trailer. We had a stickie, are selling it, and I think buying a new ParkLiner (ParkLiner Fiberglass Ultralight Travel Trailers -). Good luck!

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Old 07-23-2013, 02:48 PM   #156
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Thanks for the suggestion i'll check it out!! The Jayco was just an example of something i would consider towing and for the size. Haven't really received the tow vehicle to much yet, more concerned of the ford escape as a TV. i'll look into the light weight travel trailers that you provided though.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:12 PM   #157
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I don't know what you want or need for bed size Ryan, but both the ParkLiner and Lil Snoozy come with queen size beds, and lightweight to boot. We're pretty much sold on the ParkLiner for a number of reasons.

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Old 07-23-2013, 04:58 PM   #158
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Just so you know without the tow package your limit drops from 3500# to 2000# . You are going to have to do some hard thinking now that you did not spend the extra $500. for the tow package.

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Hello,

This is my first post and joined as have been researching this topic very extensively. I purchased a 2013 ford escape SE and have some questoins about towing. I'm in the market to purchase a hybrid, i've been looking at light weight models and wondering if i can tow is safetly. I'm fine with getting a WDH or sway bar (don't know much about towing sorry if i got this wrong).

I was looking at this model :

Jayco Jay Feather Ultra Lite SLX Travel Trailer 16 XRB

Model Specifications 16 XRB
UVW 2575
Hitch Weight 315
GVWR 3500
Cargo Carrying Capacity 925
Exterior Height w/ AC 117"
Interior Height (Living Area) 78"
Fresh Water 20
Gray Water 15
Black Water 9
Exterior Length 18'4"

Another concern i have is the dry weight and tongue weight, does anyone own this model and have the wet weight? or will have i have to track one down and look at the sticket on the door.

My model of escape is the 2.0L ecoboost, 4WD, automatic. It states it can tow 3500LBS, with max 350 tongue weight. Also i opted not to get the tow package as all it includes is a Class 2 hitch receiver and Trailer Sway Control.

With the math the smart part on this forum are doing, will i be okay? i just can't figure this all out. This will be my first time ever having a camper, always tented.

Thanks for the help
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:08 PM   #159
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Just so you know without the tow package your limit drops from 3500# to 2000# . You are going to have to do some hard thinking now that you did not spend the extra $500. for the tow package.

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He has the 2.0L engine, so all he needs to do is add back on the tow package contents, probably less the trailer sway control.

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Old 07-23-2013, 07:06 PM   #160
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Okay, I understand that there's not much in the tow package; however, I have never heard of a manufacturer rating a tow vehicle much lower with an aftermarket hitch or wiring package than with the OEM equivalents. I suspect that the difference is the Trailer Sway Control, for stability. Fortunately, the whole package is available dealer-installed for other engines, so maybe the sway control feature could be enabled for the 2.0 EcoBoost.

I know that OEM hitches are often overpriced, but I just don't understand scrimping on an important component to save 2% on the cost of a vehicle.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:57 PM   #161
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I understand most people have the tow package from reading through these pages. I didn't plan to tow with this vehicle which was my mistake. Trying to do math at this point and figure out what t i can handle with class 3 , wdh, sway, and trailer brake. I see oneford is doing it successfuly which is good to see.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:42 AM   #162
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Your Escape will tow this with no problems. I have the same options except I got mine with tow package. I have and do excede the weight ratings with no probems. I do use weight distrubution and anti sway hitch. I use this one due to it only weigh's 50 lbs and you have to add this to your hitch ton weight Andersen 'No-Sway' Weight Distribution Hitch . You will need to have the escape wired for trailer brakes and have a brake controler installed. I recomend buying this from E-trailer.com Brake Controller by Tekonsha for 2013 Escape - 90885 and Universal Installation Kit for Trailer Brake Controller - 7-Way RV and 4-Way Flat - 10 Gauge Wires etrailer Accessories and Parts ETBC7 not sure what hitch you want so I included a link for all available for the 2013 escape. Your no hands/kick liftgate sensor will probobly not work after installing. The tow package ordered from Ford eliminates this feature. I have herd there might be a fix for this, maybe a sensor move off center. I have towed in all weather conditions and with cross wind speeds of over 50 mph in storms. All differnt road grades around 4,000 miles so far this year with it with no problems. I tow anywhere from 65 to 75 mph's in 90's degree heat with the AC on max with no problems. I have found some tips for towing to reduce transmission shifting on slight hills and improve mpg's. Around the city (not highway) I keep it in "D" and once up to speed on the highway I move to select shift mode "S" and will pick the gear I want (cruise controll works in either). Usualy 5th gear. If the road is leavel and not having head winds you can put in 6th. Here in Michigan, even in the hilly north I rarely have to drop down to 3rd. I get any where from 11 to 18 mpg's ,this is worst conditions (hills at 70mph) to best (flat with no head winds). Expext around 26mpg average un-hitched. If I missed anything r need to explain further, let me know.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:37 AM   #163
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I understand most people have the tow package from reading through these pages. I didn't plan to tow with this vehicle which was my mistake.
I can see this if your plans changed - although buying a truck or SUV not set up to tow seems a bit like buying a sedan with no back seat - but others have reported choosing to skip the tow package (on various vehicles) even though they intended to tow. I don't get that...

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Trying to do math at this point and figure out what t i can handle with class 3 , wdh, sway, and trailer brake. I see oneford is doing it successfuly which is good to see.
Ford apparently says 2000 pounds. ONEFORD says he has the tow package, so he has Ford's Trailer Sway Control feature, and so his experience is not entirely applicable. Someone out there has probably pulled two or three tons, but unless they have done it for years that says nothing about reliability, and unless they have performed emergency maneuvers and stops with it that says nothing about safe control.

I would check into getting the Trailer Sway Control enabled.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:58 AM   #164
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OP,

Check what you really lost in not getting a tow package, most of the tow packages I have gotten over the years included 4 things hitch, trailer wiring, larger alternator, transmission cooler or a larger one if one comes stock. There were other things but they would be manufacturer specific. Note most engineers build in fudge factors on thier weights and capacities etc. I don't care to push against their limits ALL THE TIME :} it usually ends with loud noises and a bank account being drained to pay for repairs :}

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Old 07-24-2013, 09:01 AM   #165
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Class III Hitch is not nessary, You would bust the suspention before the hitch.. I wouldnt rely alone on the Factory Ford "anti sway control" it is a computer controlled last ditch action, once the sway has been detected by the computer in the Escape. It applies brakes in corner areas as needed and cuts power to bring the sway under controll. This is a last effort. What you want to do is to eliminate the sway before it ever happens by instaling some sort of hitch mounted sway controll.. I got cought in 50-to 60 mph storm gusts last friday in michigan on the highway doing 70 mph and didnt have any sway issues. Also trailer brakes is a must! The trailer brakes stop the trailer and the escape brakes stop the escape. I also use weight distrubution and simply keep the same ratio of weight and front and rear loaded as un-loaded. I excede the ton weight, around 400lbs total.
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You should tell this to Toyota! My 2010 RAV4 came with the "Tow Package". No hitch, no trailer wiring for lights, brake or charge line. They did increase the alternator size & fan coupler but adding the trailer lighting was a pain! They do list quite a difference for tow capacity with & without the package - V6 without: 2000 lbs, V6 with: 3500 lbs.
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You should tell this to Toyota! My 2010 RAV4 came with the "Tow Package". No hitch, no trailer wiring for lights, brake or charge line. They did increase the alternator size & fan coupler but adding the trailer lighting was a pain! They do list quite a difference for tow capacity with & without the package - V6 without: 2000 bps, V6 with: 3500 lbs.
Lol I guess I should have qualified that with most of the vehicles I have bought Chevy, Ford, Dodge etc. I do know Toyotas are a horse of a different color lol I currently have a 2011 Tacoma I just spent a weekend and several hundred bucks to tow the 19 Foot Escape I got from CPAHarley lol. I put in Air Bags, Brake controller and a gauge system to monitor tranny temps and such. One would think your going to tow you might want to keep an eye on fluid temps etc apparently not in toyota's world as the gauges are not even an option in any level of tacoma. :{

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:25 AM   #168
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Tow package in my wimpy 4 cyl standard shift Canyon includes a lower numeric rear end ratio, a class III receiver and a 7 pin rv plug. That's to tow 2100#s. The Escape we're looking at comes with a class II receiver and a 4 pin flat plug, and tows 3500#s!

Ya gotta love this stuff!

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