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Old 07-31-2013, 05:55 AM   #197
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What does that tell you?
Well it appears that many vehicle have some respectable towing capabilities but are limited to a few accessories like alternator or cooling fan size.

Is that what you are seeing as well Thomas??
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:31 AM   #198
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My 2009 GMC Canyon, 4 cylinder, 5 speed standard is rated for 2100#s. With an automatic transmission the exact same vehicle is rated for 3100#s.

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Very nice. Welcome all that have bought 2013 Ford Escapes. I love mine and will tow for the first time in 2 weeks. Cant wait to see how it handles.
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Rick, did you get the 2 liter ecoboost with the tow package? I bet you'll love towing with it!

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Yup got the 2013 SE in Tuxedo Black 2.0 turbo with tow package. And now I find out the 2014 have the backup camera as a standard feature.

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Rick, did you get the 2 liter ecoboost with the tow package? I bet you'll love towing with it!

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No big deal Rick. I don't know about you, but I been backing up to trailers most my adult life, and will just keep on doing it the old fashioned way. Plus we got a great deal on a 2013. I think ours was an SEL, but not sure, coulda been the same as yours, but Ruby Red!

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Well it appears that many vehicle have some respectable towing capabilities but are limited to a few accessories like alternator or cooling fan size.

Is that what you are seeing as well Thomas??
It tells me that there is little effort to maximize towing capacity on small suvs and cars.
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I tend to agree. There just doesn't seem to be the interest here on this side of the pond.

My view is that the general population has been conditioned to think they need the big heavy vehicle to tow much of anything.
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Possibly what they're rated to tow and what they can tow are not the same.
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Yes Norm, the TV parked in our driveway is proof of that.
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Possibly what they're rated to tow and what they can tow are not the same.
Sure, anything can tow anything... poorly. What they are rated to tow and what is stupid to do are often quite different. The challenge: what needs to be done to intelligently tow more than the rating?

This is supposed to be a 2013 Ford Escape discussion. In this case, Ford has provided very different ratings for different equipment levels - they can all tow a few tons, but why would anyone think that Ford assigned a lower limit for what they should tow to some configurations without a reason?

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It tells me that there is little effort to maximize towing capacity on small suvs...
True... but difference made by what seem like small changes in equipment don't indicate to me a lack of effort, only a recognition that it makes no sense to equip all vehicles with equipment that only a few will use, and testing (or at least educated guessing) to establish what equipment makes a difference to reliable towing.

If changing cooling fans (not likely fan couplings... nothing has a mechanically driven fan in this century) makes a big difference, that means that the manufacturer has established a significant risk of damage due to overheating under sustained heavy load without that fan change. A vehicle without a trailer/anchor behind it will never experience that sustained heavy load, so it has optimal cooling for normal use; if you pull a trailer, the manufacturer has identified the limiting component which needs to be upgraded.
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True... but difference made by what seem like small changes in equipment don't indicate to me a lack of effort, only a recognition that it makes no sense to equip all vehicles with equipment that only a few will use, and testing (or at least educated guessing) to establish what equipment makes a difference to reliable towing.
It is interesting that Toyota did a lot of testing of the 2005 Sienna in the variable climates of North America. They decided to equip all Sienna's with the tow pkg, and rated them for 3,500lbs. They did that for a year or two. Not sure when or if they backed away from the idea.

Our family mid size sedan has no tow pkg but has a tranny cooler and custom hd hitch. It has had no problems towing our TT. It now has 225,000klm's on it and is 11 years old. Still runs like a new car.
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Sure, anything can tow anything... poorly. What they are rated to tow and what is stupid to do are often quite different. The challenge: what needs to be done to intelligently tow more than the rating?

This is supposed to be a 2013 Ford Escape discussion. In this case, Ford has provided very different ratings for different equipment levels - they can all tow a few tons, but why would anyone think that Ford assigned a lower limit for what they should tow to some configurations without a reason?

True... but difference made by what seem like small changes in equipment don't indicate to me a lack of effort, only a recognition that it makes no sense to equip all vehicles with equipment that only a few will use, and testing (or at least educated guessing) to establish what equipment makes a difference to reliable towing.

If changing cooling fans (not likely fan couplings... nothing has a mechanically driven fan in this century) makes a big difference, that means that the manufacturer has established a significant risk of damage due to overheating under sustained heavy load without that fan change. A vehicle without a trailer/anchor behind it will never experience that sustained heavy load, so it has optimal cooling for normal use; if you pull a trailer, the manufacturer has identified the limiting component which needs to be upgraded.
My point is that there is little effort to put together a robust towing package for small SUVs , the Escape being an exception. If one can increase the towing capacity from,say,2000#, to 3500# for several hundred dollars, that is real added value. For an individual to attempt this requires determining the limiting factors, which would probably have to be done by trial and error. The manufacturer would already know these factors based on standard tests that are run as part of vehicle development. I am not suggesting every vehicle come equipped ready to tow, only that a tow package that fully uses the vehicle's towing potential be available.
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My point is that there is little effort to put together a robust towing package for small SUVs , the Escape being an exception. If one can increase the towing capacity from,say,2000#, to 3500# for several hundred dollars, that is real added value. For an individual to attempt this requires determining the limiting factors, which would probably have to be done by trial and error. The manufacturer would already know these factors based on standard tests that are run as part of vehicle development. I am not suggesting every vehicle come equipped ready to tow, only that a tow package that fully uses the vehicle's towing potential be available.
And the other question is: why does Ford bury the couple hundred $ of equipment necessary to tow at a higher rating under the weight of a bloated $$$$ package? Part of the reason I went with a Nissan pickup was I could get just the towing package without springing for a bunch of stuff that I didn't need. I was looking at the Ford Escape, but calculated that the 10,000 that I saved would buy a lot of gas.

I'm sure Ford will survive quite nicely without my purchase of their product.
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