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Old 08-02-2013, 04:04 PM   #239
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Unfortunately, the 2 litre 4 banger in the Mazda CX5 developed 155 ponies. For those who gave done their homework, a question. Is 250hp the typical output of 2 litre 4s without forced air?

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Old 08-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #240
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For the tow rating religious, does the Ford Escape's frontal area limits mean that one can not tow a travel trailer with a Ford Escape?
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:56 PM   #241
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30 sq. ft. is Ford's frontal area number for the 2.0 w/ the blower. I've never seen anyone say that as long as one exceeds max recommendations, everything will be fine, but I have observed that skeptics and heresiarchs prefer to push the limits. Presumably one can tow what one wishes with what one wishes to tow with but I assume that FoMoCo has a reason for a conservative frontal area rec.

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Old 08-02-2013, 05:49 PM   #242
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Check out oneford's rig. He's the guy who convinced me getting one of these 2 liter ecoboost Escapes was the way to go. There's a post about 1/2 way down here: Anyone towing with a 2013 Ford Escape?

He says (and I quote): "I tow a 3500# Travel Lite I17 with a 2013 Ford Escape 2.0 Ecoboost AWD with tow package. It comes with a 2in reciever and a 4-pin conector. I added a 7-pin conector for a Tekonsha Prodigy P2 breke controller and a Andersen "no sway" WD hitch. This combination is incredible!"

Further on, he says: "The Ford Escape 2.0 Ecoboost tow package has 240 hp and 270 tq and weighs only 3500-3700 lbs. The Ford looks like the winner if you are only going to tow 3500lbs and also the ford will get better MPG'S towing and un-towing. Ford also has a built in anti sway controll in the traction controll as a last resort if thing get out of hand., I like to still use hitch sway controll to eliminate it before it starts. I have towed in a 40 mph cross wind a couple weeks ago and didnt have a problem even at 70mph. your friction anti sway should work fine. I just prefer to use andersen style due to it weighs less 50lbs and lets me back up with out unconecting it."

Daniel and I have exchanged emails about how the Escape works towing his rig. He only has very positive things to say about it.

That's the best I can do guys. I may as well stop reading posts in this thread, as all I seem to do is defend my choice of tow vehicle after months of consideration.

Have a great weekend all!

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Old 08-02-2013, 06:24 PM   #243
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That's the best I can do guys. I may as well stop reading posts in this thread, as all I seem to do is defend my choice of tow vehicle after months of consideration.

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:00 PM   #244
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Tom, towing safety, commonly stated to be dependent on such considerations as weight, wheelbase and suspension of tow vehicle, has not been mentioned by anyone in this thread or at least not by me. The issue of marginal capability for hill-pulling was raised and justifiably IMO. I was off topic with the reference to Mazda CX5 frontal area parameter of tow rating followed by a mass condemnation of small displacement engines as lacking guts for towing. I apologize to all participants in this thread.

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Old 08-02-2013, 10:37 PM   #245
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For the tow rating religious, does the Ford Escape's frontal area limits mean that one can not tow a travel trailer with a Ford Escape?
Obviously, yes. If I cared enough and was using that tow vehicle, I would sit down and calculate out 30 square feet of flat surface, vs whatever footage and curve the camper has at whatever max speed I planned on going.

I prefer sticking my foot in the throttle body and letting 350hp eat. I've never lost speed on a hill, and kick down on TWO hills from wichita to Minneapolis.

I'm that guy the camper forum warns you about.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:59 PM   #246
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Just looked up the Grand Cherokee frontal area limit, 55 sq ft. V6, V8 and diesel all say 55 sq ft max.
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My '04 titan shows 50 sq. ft., and 2010 ford 350-550 shows 60!!! What the hell?

Are they considering frontal area as what sticks out past the tv? I don't see any other option. Something's rotten in Denmark.
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That's the only thing that makes sense. Our new Escape must have at least 30 sf of frontal area without anything behind it!

I just took of the dealer sticker (grrrrrr), roof rack cross bars (T30, wonderful, plus I needed a step stool), and am going to take of the dealer license plate surrounds, then go over the finish very carefully, make sure everything is squeaky clean, then tape off the black and seal the paint. I may be at this all day...

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My '04 titan shows 50 sq. ft., and 2010 ford 350-550 shows 60!!! What the hell?

Are they considering frontal area as what sticks out past the tv? I don't see any other option. Something's rotten in Denmark.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:22 AM   #249
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Just looked up the Grand Cherokee frontal area limit, 55 sq ft. V6, V8 and diesel all say 55 sq ft max.
Amazing. Looks like they just rubber stamp numbers whether they mean anything or not.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:28 AM   #250
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That's the only thing that makes sense. Our new Escape must have at least 30 sf of frontal area without anything behind it!
The Ford towing guide for Escapes with other engines shows a limit of 20 ft2 - which is less than the cross sectional area of the Escape alone......
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Exactly. Ford must know (ya would think), that the frontal area of the vehicle is more than that! It has to mean extra area.

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The Ford towing guide for Escapes with other engines shows a limit of 20 ft2 - which is less than the cross sectional area of the Escape alone......
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My '04 titan shows 50 sq. ft., and 2010 ford 350-550 shows 60!!! What the hell?

Are they considering frontal area as what sticks out past the tv? I don't see any other option. Something's rotten in Denmark.
Regarding the 2010 F350, would you tell us the page number and name of the document where you found that? I have read through the Owner Guide (2nd printing), towing info seems to be between pages 251 and 262, and have not been able to spot any frontal area specifications. I have to see this for myself!
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