Anyone towing with a 2013 Ford Escape? - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-17-2013, 06:22 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Rick Mooyman's Avatar
 
Name: Rick
Trailer: 1971 Boler 13' / 2013 Ford Escape
Manitoba
Posts: 962
Registry
Anyone towing with a 2013 Ford Escape?

Anyone out there towing with a 2013 Ford Escape? I just Factory ordered a SE 2.0L 4WD last weekend with a towing capacity of 3500# to tow my 1971 Boler.
__________________

__________________
Rick Mooyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 07:29 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Name: jim
Trailer: 2016 2ndGen Escape19 Prairie Schooner pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,398
Registry
You may be the first!!
__________________

__________________
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 08:24 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Thomas G.'s Avatar
 
Name: Kinga DeRode
Trailer: For Sale Or Rent
Rooms to Let 50 Cents
Posts: 5,103
I'm interested in hearing your experiences. As other manufacturers pull back on towing capacity in this vehicle class, the Escape may become more popular.
__________________
UHaul and Burro owners, join the UHaul Campers on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/529276933859491/
Thomas G. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 02:25 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Mike Magee's Avatar
 
Name: Michael
Trailer: Li'l Hauley
Oklahoma
Posts: 5,142
Turbo? Non?
__________________
How much time do we have left? 2 Chr. 7:14
Mike Magee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 02:35 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
honda03842's Avatar
 
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,300
Escape and CMax

We looked at the Escape and hybrid C-Max yesterday. We liked them both but were particularly interested in the C-Max. The electric motor provides a lot of low speed torque, potentially a nice balanve to the 4 cylinder engine. I will say the CTV transmission scares me in the CMax.

Does anyone tow with a CVT?
__________________
Norm and Ginny

2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
honda03842 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 03:02 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Francesca Knowles's Avatar
 
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,543
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Mooyman View Post
Anyone out there towing with a 2013 Ford Escape? I just Factory ordered a SE 2.0L 4WD last weekend with a towing capacity of 3500# to tow my 1971 Boler.
Cool!

I see by the specs that the 3500 pound capacity is with the factory tow package- what does that consist of?

Thanks!

Francesca
__________________
.................................
Propane Facts vs. Fiction:. Click here
Tow Limit Calculator: Click here
Francesca Knowles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 03:39 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Rick Mooyman's Avatar
 
Name: Rick
Trailer: 1971 Boler 13' / 2013 Ford Escape
Manitoba
Posts: 962
Registry
2.0L turbo putting out 231HP on regular gas and 240HP on premium. Tow package consists of the trailer hitch and 4 pin wire harness, trailer sway control, bigger radiator and trans oil cooler.
__________________
Rick Mooyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Rick Mooyman's Avatar
 
Name: Rick
Trailer: 1971 Boler 13' / 2013 Ford Escape
Manitoba
Posts: 962
Registry
The C-Max will not tow. Not enough HP. And not rated for towing from what I can find. Don't know if I would even buy a vehicle with a CVT trans, have test driven a few and was not impressed with CVT trans in any of the vehicles I have driven.
__________________
Rick Mooyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Thomas G.'s Avatar
 
Name: Kinga DeRode
Trailer: For Sale Or Rent
Rooms to Let 50 Cents
Posts: 5,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842 View Post
We looked at the Escape and hybrid C-Max yesterday. We liked them both but were particularly interested in the C-Max. The electric motor provides a lot of low speed torque, potentially a nice balanve to the 4 cylinder engine. I will say the CTV transmission scares me in the CMax.

Does anyone tow with a CVT?
My Escape has an eCVT. It is an amazingly simple device. It is basically a planetary gearset with two electric motor / generators. No belts, no pulleys, no friction wheels. The same principle is used in the Prius eCVT.

Toyota Prius - Power Split Device
__________________
UHaul and Burro owners, join the UHaul Campers on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/529276933859491/
Thomas G. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 04:07 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Brian B-P's Avatar
 
Name: Brian
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Alberta
Posts: 5,000
Generally Ford hybrids use the transmission system which Tom described; it is used by all Toyota hybrids. It is entirely different from an actual variable mechanical transmission (such as the belt and toroidal rotor designs used by Subaru, Nissan, and others), but related to the "Two Mode" hybrid design used by GM, Mercedes, BMW, and whoever else participated in that development program.

According to Ford.ca:
Quote:
Class II Trailer Tow Package (SE, SEL, Titanium)
Class II Trailer Tow Package:
Class II hitch receiver
Trailer Sway Control
Requires 2.0L EcoBoost I-4 engine
Power liftgate replaces hands-free liftgate on vehicles equipped with Class II Trailer Tow package
I guess the hitch (or perhaps hanging equipment such as cables and chains) gets in the way of the hands-free liftgate sensor.

The EcoBoost 2.0L is optional on the SE. The hybrid is gone from the Escape.
__________________
1979 Boler B1700RGH, pulled by 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 2WD
Information is good. Lack of information is not so good, but misinformation is much worse. Check facts, and apply common sense liberally.
STATUS: No longer active in forum.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 04:19 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Brian B-P's Avatar
 
Name: Brian
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Alberta
Posts: 5,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Mooyman View Post
The C-Max will not tow. Not enough HP. And not rated for towing from what I can find. Don't know if I would even buy a vehicle with a CVT trans, have test driven a few and was not impressed with CVT trans in any of the vehicles I have driven.
I have yet to see a C-MAX here. Like all Fords of about this size, it is built on the same platform, generally referred to as the Focus platform, although some variations (such as the Transit Connect) have few parts actually interchangeable.

The C-MAX has as much power as a full-size sedan of the 1970's. It certainly has enough power to tow, and has just as large an engine as Rick's Escape; however, it probably is not designed with the engine and transmission cooling capacity, and rear suspension load capacity and stiffness, to be suitable for towing. The specs web page doesn't even have a "Towing" tab the way the Escape does. The situation for the mechanically related current Transit Connect is similar, even though it is intended as a light commercial vehicle.

It's too bad - quasi-offroad styled station wagons (called "SUV" or "crossover") make less sense as practical tow vehicles than straightforward station wagons like the C-MAX (or the Transit Connect).

I have only driven one CVT - a Nissan - and it behaved very well. I would certainly prefer it to the VW I drove with a DSG (automated gear transmission), which was a disappointment.
__________________
1979 Boler B1700RGH, pulled by 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 2WD
Information is good. Lack of information is not so good, but misinformation is much worse. Check facts, and apply common sense liberally.
STATUS: No longer active in forum.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 04:26 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
honda03842's Avatar
 
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,300
Actually the CMax has a lot of horsepower when you consider the combination of gas and electric motor. As to it's tow rating I'm not so interested in rating but capability, at least from a possibility standpoint.

I know it has more combined horsepower than my tow vehicle and probably more useable torque.

The reality is these maximum power ratings are rarely needed and rarely used. My Honda's peak horsepower and peak torque occure at realitively high engine speeds, yet it's worked very well as a tow vehicle.. In the old days you could always find an engine power curve, not so much today. I've always wondered how well the low speed torque of the electric motor would mate with a gas engine.

Thanks for the tip on the CVT transmission. I'll have to read about that configuation.
__________________
Norm and Ginny

2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
honda03842 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Thomas G.'s Avatar
 
Name: Kinga DeRode
Trailer: For Sale Or Rent
Rooms to Let 50 Cents
Posts: 5,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842 View Post
.........I've always wondered how well the low speed torque of the electric motor would mate with a gas engine.........
On my Escape it is a nice combination. The Escape actually uses an Atkinson cycle engine, which provides higher fuel economy than an Otto cycle engine, but has less low speed torque. The electric engine provides full torque at zero RPM and up.

Product Press Info | Ford Motor Company Newsroom


Quote:
Viewed by itself, the Atkinson cycle engine in the Escape Hybrid is about 4 percent more efficient than the nearly identical conventional 2.3-liter engine in the base Escape model. Why then is the Atkinson cycle not more widely used in conventional vehicles? Its main disadvantage is reduced torque, particularly at low engine speeds. The Escape Hybrid supplements the gasoline engine with an electric traction motor to provide low speed torque and a satisfying launch feel.
__________________
UHaul and Burro owners, join the UHaul Campers on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/529276933859491/
Thomas G. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2013, 07:23 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Rick Mooyman's Avatar
 
Name: Rick
Trailer: 1971 Boler 13' / 2013 Ford Escape
Manitoba
Posts: 962
Registry
Ok so I guess by all the comments, I will be the only on towing this summer with a 2013 Ford Escape on this website. First time I have been first in a long time.
__________________

__________________
Rick Mooyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
escape


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ford Escape Factory Towing Package SurfsideEd Towing, Hitching, Axles and Running Gear 38 03-26-2013 07:43 PM
Ford Escape or Jeep 3.0L Diesel Bill in Pittsburgh Towing, Hitching, Axles and Running Gear 56 02-23-2013 02:53 PM
Ford Escape or Mazda Tribute? Ron Stewart Towing, Hitching, Axles and Running Gear 11 06-23-2009 06:53 PM
Ford Escape or Suburu Outback? Paul Kaplan Towing, Hitching, Axles and Running Gear 9 07-09-2008 06:28 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.