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Old 10-07-2016, 07:57 PM   #1
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Hi Folks,
I have just joined this forum and appreciate it. We are planning on ordering a 13 ft. Scamp. Lots of conflicting info. out there on whether or not we'll need electric brakes. Any advice greatly appreciated. We will be towing the Scamp 13 with a 2015 Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder. Thanks and looking forward to camping with the Scamp.
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:54 PM   #2
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Hi Folks,
I have just joined this forum and appreciate it. We are planning on ordering a 13 ft. Scamp. Lots of conflicting info. out there on whether or not we'll need electric brakes. Any advice greatly appreciated. We will be towing the Scamp 13 with a 2015 Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder. Thanks and looking forward to camping with the Scamp.
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Brakes are not required on a Scamp13 except in +- 4 or 5 states.

That being said, get them, you'll like them...
If for no other reason than for resale or for the possibility that you will use a different TV at some point. You'll have a better experience towing with trailer brakes with your Tacoma as well.
When I tow with my Ranger 4.0L,(bigger brakes) the trailer brakes are hardly needed, but I like them. In fact, I plan to increase from 7" brakes to 10" brakes on my 13 should I ever decide to change the axle.

Like good tires, or a friction sway device, or LED taillights, trailer brakes are an improvement whether required or not.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1...l648/dl648pt12
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Old 10-07-2016, 09:08 PM   #3
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Ever priced a brake job on a Toyota?
I'd go with brakes on the trailer and less wear on the tow vehicle.
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Old 10-07-2016, 10:01 PM   #4
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While the Tacoma will stop with the Scamp attached it will stop a lot faster with brakes on the Scamp. Making for a far more comfortable tow.

As Glenn points out you will go through brakes faster on your truck without brakes on the trailer and the cost of an extra brake jobs on the truck would have paid for the addition of the brakes on the trailer a few times over.
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Old 10-07-2016, 10:12 PM   #5
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Other specified options are about convenience and comfort.
Brakes are more about safety on slick (rain+mud or ice+snow) roads.
Just my 2 cents worth and maybe not worth even that. 😉
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Brakes are not required on a Scamp13 except in +- 4 or 5 states.
Also except in a state or province (and there are a number of them) that has a law that requires the trailer to have brakes if its loaded weight is more than 50% of the licensed weight of the vehicle towing it.

The curb weight of a 4 banger Tacoma is between 3600lbs and 3800lbs depending on the which model. A loaded Scamp 13' can weigh loaded 1700lb to 2000lbs.
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Old 10-07-2016, 10:48 PM   #7
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Absolutely get brakes!

Imagine yourself on a slick road, on a curve, and you have to stop fast. Without brakes, the trailer is likely to push the light rear end of your Tacoma around and jackknife.

If your trailer ever begins to sway for any reason, you simply apply the trailer brakes and it will straighten out.

Anyone advising against trailer brakes is giving you bad advice. Get them.
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Also except in a state or province (and there are a number of them) that has a law that requires the trailer to have brakes if its loaded weight is more than 50% of the licensed weight of the vehicle towing it.

The curb weight of a 4 banger Tacoma is between 3600lbs and 3800lbs depending on the which model. A loaded Scamp 13' can weigh loaded 1700lb to 2000lbs.
We've been through this and lot those are pretty much included. (double it just for good measure)
I am still baffled at those who think that following some regulation is more important than doing the right thing... you left out the part of the quote where I recommended buying the brakes, even though they were not required in most of the country or California, because the brakes would improve the performance of the rig... "whether required or not".
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And then there is the fact that you will live much longer if you reduce stress on yourself and on your tow vehicle.
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We've been through this and lot those are pretty much included. (double it just for good measure)
I am still baffled at those who think that following some regulation is more important than doing the right thing... you left out the part of the quote where I recommended buying the brakes, even though they were not required in most of the country or California, because the brakes would improve the performance of the rig... "whether required or not".

I left out your quote re recommending buying the brakes for improved performance, as you had already said it and as you can see in my first post I agreed with you ;-)

I simple added the legal requirement for brakes re weight of trailer being 50% of the vehicle, due to the fact that the OP may not be aware of the actual laws in regards to brakes. Would be a shame if they were to find out about it after the fact should they have an accident and the lack of brakes on the trailer is found to have been a contributing factor.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:23 AM   #11
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YES get brakes. I too have a 13'er and would NOT be without them. It's better to have them and NOT need them than to need them and they're not there.

Yes, you can stop without them, but they WILL aid you in stopping in case of an emergency. I've always heard the rule of thumb is to set the brakes where you dont feel any difference with or without the trailer. That way, the trailer is stopping itself and not trying to stop itself AND the TV....and of course vice-versa.

That's my $worthless opinion on the subject....
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When you need them - You really need them. It is far better to be safe than sorry. Do you have fire, smoke, propane and carbonmonixide detectors? You need them also.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:07 AM   #13
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You'll never notice them except when your controller is set wrong. I'd get them just because they're cool. However, realistically, they're an extra expense that will also add yearly maintenance. And when I say I'd get them I should qualify that I'd probably order the parts online and install myself. Definitely not pay dealer markup.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:20 AM   #14
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I kinda feel like that kid who is the last one, and the heaviest just about to jump on the pile. I don't want to do it Oski!
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