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Old 10-18-2013, 02:34 PM   #29
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Vehicle braking and braking dynamics are a very complex subject. Simply looking at manufacturer test specifications or brake pad material have little to no bearing on the actual way a vehicle towing a trailer, or even just a loaded vehicle will react and respond under different braking and road conditions. For those "engineering" types who enjoy mathematical formulas and evaluative tests here is an interesting thesis from MSU on The NONLINEAR DYNAMICS OF LONGITUDINAL GROUND VEHICLE TRACTION.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:14 PM   #30
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I had a recent "equilibrium" experience....
As a moderator I must remind you this is a family forum.

Oh crap, now I have to moderate myself for going off topic.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:20 PM   #31
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What caused the brakes to fail? I have never had this happen with many thousands of miles of towing. The only time the brakes did not work was when some idiot (oh yeah, that was me), forgot to connect to the tow. Properly maintained brakes on the trailer for me is just as important as on the tow vehicle. I am not fussy with lots of components on my vehicles, but anything that affects driving performance, I definitely am. Part of this comes from towing with big trucks and trailers, where often the trailer outweighs the truck by many times.
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Wheel came off thanks to the dealership not torquing anything after a rotate and balance. It stayed upright, went under the bumper, under the trailer deck severing the harness, and under the trailer tires (still upright). It launched the left side of the pickup and trailer 3' in the air. What you can't see is the ravine after about 5' of shoulder. I was damn glad to be in a pickup when that happened.
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Wheel came off thanks to the dealership not torquing anything after a rotate and balance. It stayed upright, went under the bumper, under the trailer deck severing the harness, and under the trailer tires (still upright). It launched the left side of the pickup and trailer 3' in the air. What you can't see is the ravine after about 5' of shoulder. I was damn glad to be in a pickup when that happened.
That looks nasty. Glad it wasn't any worse, and you are here to tell us about it.

I had that happen with the front wheel on a 3/4 ton pickup. I was lucky that the truck pulled into the ditch, and not the oncoming traffic. I wasn't pulling a trailer.

That is a very rare incident that you had though, and not a reason for a heavier and bigger tow vehicle. We really can't plan everything we do for a worst case scenario.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:17 PM   #33
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I'm sure I read somewhere that brakes are cheaper to replace than transmissions.
I didn't say that I don't gear down.
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My 4runner is a couple hundred pounds over 2 ton, camper is around 3200#. I still like the boost feature on the P2 and I generally keep it on B1. Tranny wear from downhill engine braking is preferable to brake fade.

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